Will we go back to Lebanon?

[shevchenco]

Originally Posted by ostwind

Did u ask them why they are still there? What they like there? What they hate? etc...

they just like living there. to be honest, life outside of lebanon is mostly dull and boring. You feel like you are just a machine working with other emotionless machines. But I have to say that the level of education is better than lebanon not because of the students or the teachers are better not at all, it is just because governments and private sector pump lots of money into research. (by eduction, I mean university-level and not high school level which sucks really really bad).

[ostwind]

Originally Posted by shevchenco

they just like living there. to be honest, life outside of lebanon is mostly dull and boring. You feel like you are just a machine working with other emotionless machines. But I have to say that the level of education is better than lebanon not because of the students or the teachers are better not at all, it is just because governments and private sector pump lots of money into research. (by eduction, I mean university-level and not high school level which sucks really really bad).

I have heard this phrase from before "emotionless machines", in my opinion being dull and boring is a mentality that lebanese have over there because they want a bit of freedom and some rules breaking like here. But don't u think that Lebanese do need some rules and regulations in order to have a more pleasant life even though it makes life "boring and dull"?

[Wolf]

Originally Posted by Toufic

Walla ya habboob my cousin got a visa to Canada with all her family,
guess what? she let it go and stayed in Lebanon, she is doing very very well.
so if someone had a bad luck in lebanon doesn't mean that leb is not good.

that makes it 1 lucky family out of 10,000.
so the rest should eat hawa?

get real Lebanon cannot offer anything than it already had.

[Wolf]

Originally Posted by 007returns

well done , canada must be happy with all the taxes u paid and the boost u gave to their economy....

And guess what I pay 1 bill for water, 1 bill for electricity, I have security,
I do not have to pay for major operation in hospitals... should i go on?

I Pay alot of taxes, that is certain, but I get something back.
You pay taxes, but you get zilch in return.

sorry dude I put a big X on the country after 1993.
let me say it again

law bada tchateh kenit ghayamit.....

[mickey117]

Guys, the real problem of Lebanon is not corruption or wars, its overpopulation!!!

[Revolution1989]

Realistically, I won't...

I want my kids to grow up in a country where they have opportunities and where, above all, law is sacred... It depends what you guys value the most...

I think we are asking the question the wrong way. The immigration has always been parts of the Lebanese genes and it is a good thing. Think of Gibran Khalil Gebran, Hassan Kamel el Sabbah, Carlos Ghosn, John Mack (the CEO of Morgan Stanley), Ralph Nader, etc.

The question we should be asking ourselves is how to strengthen those links with our diaspora so that people leaving lebanon are not "lost" for Lebanon and we create some back and forth movements (hint, look at our southern neighbour).

One sentence that shocked me one day. In Paris one Lebanese (spoiled rich kid a la Nayla) said to me: "Really, you work till 7:00 pm every week day? You're like a slave!!! Are you so desparate for the money? I would never do that"

[GMA forever]

Originally Posted by Wolf

And guess what I pay 1 bill for water, 1 bill for electricity, I have security,
I do not have to pay for major operation in hospitals... should i go on?

I Pay alot of taxes, that is certain, but I get something back.
You pay taxes, but you get zilch in return.

sorry dude I put a big X on the country after 1993.
let me say it again

law bada tchateh kenit ghayamit.....

Wolf, noone is comparing Lebanon to Canada. Heh, last time I checked, Lebanese were immigrating to Canada and not vice versa.

We are talking here about all of us living in diaspora, if we are still interested in our mother country, and if we count one day to return to it, we have to contribute in order to make it a country where we can live there almost like we do in Canada or other countries.

We are supporting people, who believe in change and reform, who wants to lift Lebanon to a higher level. Those people if given a chance, they will provide us with just 1 bill for water to pay, 1 bill for electricity to pay, security and not having to pay for major operations in hospitals.

The mere fact that you are here in this forum means you didn't forget your motherland, you are just too angry at it and I understand you very well. If you believe in improving Lebanon, to the level you wish for, all you have to do is get your ..... to Lebanon on the 7th of June and vote for the people who are working for change and reform.

Regards

[Wolf]

Originally Posted by GMA forever

Wolf, noone is comparing Lebanon to Canada. Heh, last time I checked, Lebanese were immigrating to Canada and not vice versa.

We are talking here about all of us living in diaspora, if we are still interested in our mother country, and if we count one day to return to it, we have to contribute in order to make it a country where we can live there almost like we do in Canada or other countries.

We are supporting people, who believe in change and reform, who wants to lift Lebanon to a higher level. Those people if given a chance, they will provide us with just 1 bill for water to pay, 1 bill for electricity to pay, security and not having to pay for major operations in hospitals.

The mere fact that you are here in this forum means you didn't forget your motherland, you are just too angry at it and I understand you very well. If you believe in improving Lebanon, to the level you wish for, all you have to do is get your ..... to Lebanon on the 7th of June and vote for the people who are working for change and reform.

Regards

I Totaly agree with you.
but no matter what we do, the others will not allow us, biggest example is Israel. It will not allow Lebanon to breath, be it financaly, or another round of
usless war.
it is not only Lebanon that needs to help itself but the others too.

[ostwind]

Originally Posted by Wolf

I Totaly agree with you.
but no matter what we do, the others will not allow us, biggest example is Israel. It will not allow Lebanon to breath, be it financaly, or another round of
usless war.
it is not only Lebanon that needs to help itself but the others too.

thats soo true, whether it being israel, USA, syria, saudi arabia none wants us to prosper + with the help of some people here it wont ever. I just Hope someone can fix

[GMA forever]

Originally Posted by Wolf

I Totaly agree with you.
but no matter what we do, the others will not allow us, biggest example is Israel. It will not allow Lebanon to breath, be it financaly, or another round of
usless war.
it is not only Lebanon that needs to help itself but the others too.

Originally Posted by ostwind

thats soo true, whether it being israel, USA, syria, saudi arabia none wants us to prosper + with the help of some people here it wont ever. I just Hope someone can fix

Well this is our curse, to live in a region of conflict. But life continues, and we should make the most out of it. It is our job to fulfill our duty, and leave the rest for god, for circumstance and for luck.

It is not easy to be Lebanese, this I surely learned very well.