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Is it very hard to try to reach out for Lebanese without resorting to these sectarian calls? I just wonder...
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Until you show me a secular strategy that could get you five ministries in a government, the answer to your question is unfortunately yes. If FPM wants in, there is no other way. That's my personal opinion.

The long term goals are good though, I truly believe that it's worth it. FPM didn't create the sectarian system, but FPM wanted in and FPM is in now (or pretty close still not quite yet). It's an opportunity, why don't we judge FPM after we give it a chance?
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Greetings,

Do you think that HA/Amal should give the head of general security position for a christian officer (especially grec-catholic), after it was for decades for a christian officer, and was taken by jamil el sayyed in the syrian era ??

If HA/Amal do so, they will prove that they are really for partnership, add that it will be a good point scored for FPM in the christian street.

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I think that HA/amal should give the position of speaker to the christians , just to prove u zouxi that they are for real partnership
mech ahsa hik
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If is means that much to the Christians, and they raise it with HA, then beleive me HA doesn't have a problem with anyone from any sect taking any postion as long as their are qualified, honorable, not corrupt and will not work against the Resistance. They would rather such a Christian take the position than a corrupt Shia Muslim.


But I do have a question to ask. After Hezbollah does that, what will be the next gesture that you will expect of them to prove that they want partnership? In other words, when is the trust and confidence built? Is it built at all or will FPM continue to doubt HA's intentions, even after everything that has happened?


FPMers, do me a favor. Go to GMA and ask him if he needs HA to give the Christians this position in order for HA to prove to him that they want partnership.
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Greetings,

Do you think that HA/Amal should give the head of general security position for a christian officer (especially grec-catholic), after it was for decades for a christian officer, and was taken by jamil el sayyed in the syrian era ??

If HA/Amal do so, they will prove that they are really for partnership,
add that it will be a good point scored for FPM in the christian street.

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All we did, all we do, and we still haven't proved that we're for partnership?
Maybe a blood test is needed from us every now and than to make sure that we're worthy.
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Greetings,

Do you think that HA/Amal should give the head of general security position for a christian officer (especially grec-catholic), after it was for decades for a christian officer, and was taken by jamil el sayyed in the syrian era ??

If HA/Amal do so, they will prove that they are really for partnership, add that it will be a good point scored for FPM in the christian street.

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Why do they own tha position????
of course it will be a good point score for FPM because that's all FPM can get what ever HA throw to them. They can never get anything on their own.
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Christian street, Shiaa Officer, Sunni trademark.... lots of empty sectarian slogans.
When are WE gonna be Lebanese only?
P.S. Don't throw in that rhetoric answer: It's a sectarian system, so we have to go with the flow....
sectarian tone will keep increasing until at least the elections...

we have to live with it....



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Why do they own tha position????
of course it will be a good point score for FPM because that's all FPM can get what ever HA throw to them. They can never get anything on their own.
well HA threw at FPM the electoral law and allowed the Christians to elect up to 45 deputies whereas HA can barely get 30....

what do u think they should throw more? their neck?

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Ya 7abibi!What a sectarian thread!
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LF leader Samir Geagea raised the sect of the general security position issue lately not because he's genuinely worried about the position itself IMO, but to undermine FPM's so-called victory to return for several regions in Mount-Lebanon, the North and the South their ability to elect their own representatives.

Somehow reminds me of FPM's objection when this government (FM) broke the balance in the appointments in baladiyet Beirut and Fer3 el Ma3loumet, and when Nayla M3awad regarding one of the high educational official posts.

It's just normal for many citizens to question this issue.
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Why they should ? I though the opposition are one hand and one heart and one soul and live in one country ?
Because sectarianism is deeply rooted in the "noufous"... and FPM would be hypocrite to bash FM for tampering with the sectarian balance in some posts/institutions on one hand, and remain silent over the question raised in this thread.
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First thank you for this thread because NO it's not sectarian and it's a question asked recently by so many people!!

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fi zaroub masihe ken ismo share3 mar maroun

Later, the name was changed to chere3 el nabi kiki

We urge HA and Amal to bring back the mar maroun nomination, so they proove they are into real partnership

We don't need to be sarcastic about that matter... Because Chiaa themselves, sayyed Nasrallah also and later Abbas Hachem from RCB said that this position should go back to Christians as it was before... So waiting to see if it will happen is nothing to do with loyalty or sectarism... it's only a promise that should be kept, just like the others... (and many many many are waiting... trust me)...

NB: We will stop talking "sectarian" when EVERYTHING becomes SECULAR not only when it comes to christian matters...

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All we did, all we do, and we still haven't proved that we're for partnership?
Maybe a blood test is needed from us every now and than to make sure that we're worthy.


Ya 4U2IMI8... it's not about YOU anymore...
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