Why did the loyalists close their Forums?

[X]

Originally Posted by Illuminatus

regarding the new forum, i checked it, yes they started a neutral forum (come on not wasate in that current political sense lol), being started by 3 of the old team members, of course the people they will invite are LFers they know, but if you look around there are some FPMers, kataeb, FM, Ahrar etc...i actually contacted one of them and he seemed interested in truly hosting a neutral forum, having mods and admins from multiple parties etc... which would be a good move and i'd give them thumbs up if it happens...

It's so easy to open a "neutral" forum and attract people from different political sides, but they failed in attracting even neutrals when their were on an affiliated Forum.

i am actually sick of affiliated forum, the other LF forum been online since 1998, and i posted there since then, i posted here long time ago, on the official LF forum and FM forum, honestly most forums are uni-colored, it's interesting to have a truly diversed forum, not only members wise, but also within the team.

It is all related with politics in the end, how can FPM Forum attract people from all sides and large number of independents when other Forums cant even attract their own allies or even they are divided between each others. We even have Israelis on the Forum and had many discussions between Israelis and Hezbollah supporters.

The managements is very important but principals and values play a bigger role.

[Illuminatus]

X even the anti geagea forum is diverse, many FPMers, ex LFers, LFers, Kataeb, FM, Ahrar, Israelis, Syrians , Hezballa, commies etc...

It's so easy to open a "neutral" forum and attract people from different political sides, but they failed in attracting even neutrals when their were on an affiliated Forum.

They just opened it, i might register later on, but it seems interesting...quite interesting some of them are actually anti M14 now lol

[Youchka]

Originally Posted by Illuminatus

X is right with what he wrote, just let me make 1 thing clear, the official vanished LF forum was being run by 1 crazy guy and not a team, hence why many problems started.
Just one thing about the anti everything forum, they did not go crazy when geagea's media team adopted the other forum...first you have to understand why they adopted the other forum...the guy who bought the domain had links in arz (back then it was arz), so the geniuses in the media bureau, being so good at the internet world (some probably never used a computer before, and probably think a forum is a dating service website), adopted that official one, leaving the anti everything one alone.
that's when it became anti everything, but believe it or not, up until today, the people in charge of that forum are still pro-LF, and if you know the right people u would know that they made many steps in order to unify the forums and have a reconciliation, and letters were sent to geagea, last one was last year around march...asking for public statements about a couple of political issues, and the problem is not the hack that happened nor being unofficial.

Regarding the website, come on lol they made a huge step compared to the old one :P and please let us not give names or even initials :)
The official LF forum's problem was some people, not the team, anybody who posted there and talked to some moderators and administrators (they had like 10 admins lol) would know that some are really intelligent people...the problem was a few who are uneducated and unbalanced (even mentaly...)!!!

regarding the new forum, i checked it, yes they started a neutral forum (come on not wasate in that current political sense lol), being started by 3 of the old team members, of course the people they will invite are LFers they know, but if you look around there are some FPMers, kataeb, FM, Ahrar etc...i actually contacted one of them and he seemed interested in truly hosting a neutral forum, having mods and admins from multiple parties etc... which would be a good move and i'd give them thumbs up if it happens...i am actually sick of affiliated forum, the other LF forum been online since 1998, and i posted there since then, i posted here long time ago, on the official LF forum and FM forum, honestly most forums are uni-colored, it's interesting to have a truly diversed forum, not only members wise, but also within the team.

This forum was administrated in the right way, and for that we all have to give whoever did it (X in this case) a hand...good luck for the future!

You seem quite informed about the LF site, ma tkoun a mole ya mal3oun?

I just wanted to tell you that we are soooooo misusing the term neutral that it is becoming ridiculous. A neutral forum is where there are no political affiliations. A forum where there are people from all over the different political parties and views is not a neutral a forum, it is forum "that has people from different views".
If you are telling me that it was done by LFers then it is not neutral, and that will show in the moderation, topics discussed....
Would that forum take someone like me as moderator?

[LebSpy]

FM forum is back but starting from zero ;)

According to them, they have lost data (even though the users data are not lost) but since Feb 14 event is important, they have re-opened with an empty one which can be merged with the lost data later on (in case they recover).

[united]

Originally Posted by X

Future Forum was closed during the Gaza war and i heard Kadima party had a hand in it, they were pissed off about how can there be a movement more Israeli than them.

As for the LF forum, i heard that their admin made a small mistake, he sent a query to the database asking to delete all the posts containing the word "Aoun", the whole Forum was deleted

Dear users,
We had lost some data due to certain hosting problems, where we have been trying for the past few weeks, to recover the data we lost.
But because of 14 Feb Event, which is extremely important for us, we though of going online with this current website in which we can merge all the data we'll get from now on, with the data base we have, and the data we are going to recover soon.
Sorry a lot for this inconvenience
FM forum staff
w bala hadmane ;)

[LebReporter]

Originally Posted by united

Dear users,
We had lost some data due to certain hosting problems, where we have been trying for the past few weeks, to recover the data we lost.
But because of 14 Feb Event, which is extremely important for us, we though of going online with this current website in which we can merge all the data we'll get from now on, with the data base we have, and the data we are going to recover soon.
Sorry a lot for this inconvenience
FM forum staff
w bala hadmane ;)

You belived them?

heard ever of backups made always by webadmins?

i think as X said due to gaza jamaa future bashing each other then saudi king say hi to syrian president

so how they can bash someone loved by there king

weird people

[SamerTayyar]

united, good luck in your jihad against the majus hizballa and the salibiyeen per GMA

[X]

Originally Posted by united

Dear users,
We had lost some data due to certain hosting problems, where we have been trying for the past few weeks, to recover the data we lost.
But because of 14 Feb Event, which is extremely important for us, we though of going online with this current website in which we can merge all the data we'll get from now on, with the data base we have, and the data we are going to recover soon.
Sorry a lot for this inconvenience
FM forum staff
w bala hadmane ;)

It seems they really had a database issue, some of the tables in their database were damaged, from what i can analyze, the table "SaudiSyirarelationisbacksowehavetodeleteeverythin gwesaidsince2005" is completely damaged.

Another thing, shou essetkon with BIG AND COLORED FONTS?

[Tayyar Keserwen]

Originally Posted by X

It seems they really had a database issue, some of the tables in their database were damaged, from what i can analyze, the table "SaudiSyirarelationisbacksowehavetodeleteeverythin gwesaidsince2005" is completely damaged.

Another thing, shou essetkon with BIG AND COLORED FONTS?

Since they cant beat the Orange room in terms of visitors and ratings (not in a 100 shahid years), they figured maybe they'll try the biggest font contest bel forum te3ouloun.

[X]

So they are saying they had a data loss, and it's not true that they moved all the threads and posts to a hidden forum to cover what was being said there.



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