Whom you think is your political rival?

[jamez29]

Originally Posted by revolution425

you guys still exist because of HA

that's what you think

[revolution425]

Originally Posted by jamez29

that's what you think

Correction: Thats what i know for a fact

[Robin Hood]

Originally Posted by MarcoPolo10452

One of my votes went to the FPM, although I have nothing against the party. I wish there was an option named 'Michel Aoun' instead of FPM. I don't want to drift off into a debate about Aoun's history, but to explain it, I owe my emigration status, the weak state of the Christian community, the Ta2if agreement, and 15 yrs of Syrian occupation following the end of the war all to Aoun.
Another one of my votes went to the PSP, not for physically killing Christians in 1983 but for verbally attacking them in 2009 and not committing to a cause.

Amal got a vote for being zo3ran and never missing an opportunity to fight on the streets, being the most pro-Syrian people in this country, and for being led by the most corrupt man on the Lebanese political scene.
Kataeb got a vote for being obsolete and rotating between anti-Syria and neutral and using harsh words against Hezbollah's weapons and then going for weeks not talking about disarming them. Although I still hold them in

Marada got a vote because the Franjieh's have always been far too close to Syria.

And of course, Hezbollah, for what kind of country has a state army AND a militia? What kind of country are we trying to build? After May 2000, Hezbollah lost all legitimacy (for what little it had before). Civil war ended 20 yrs ago but as recent as last year Hezbollah took over Beirut.

I'm no LFer or FMer, but I didn't vote for them because I feel they at least mean well. Saad Hariri just has to grow some balls and act as much as he talks, and Samir Ja3ja3 just needs to play a more important role in March 14. Why doesn't the LF have 20 MPs right now when it could've had that many? Why must all Christian MPs go to Hariri?

Tell that who owe their emigrant statut to shahid l mazra3a.
Zo3ran, bas men 3ouzoun ta nrabbe zou3rankoun.
Your sheikh Bashir wasn't close to Israel?
Enough debating about this issue, HA is here to stay until there will no longer be a threat called Israel, lli mech m3ajbo, yde2 rasso bi sour Sine.

[DITOU]

FM/haririst is the chef d'orchestre par exelence uniting around him a bunch of the most criminal minds and most corrupt figures to do the dirty job .

my vote went to FM and LF but this does not mean psp is any better (same as LF)
i do not trust Amal (Berry).

[Joumana Gebara]

Define politics first, in order to define "political rival"

Politics is like the horse tamer, is like a mother taking care of her children, is like dealing with your neighboors, like developing frienships without losing your character...

So simply said politics is about "who cares and protects the people and is able to have good relationships with the neighboors, at the same time can feed his people and offer them a bright future".

Politics is not about ideologies عهد العقائد ولا
Politics is not about worshiping a Zaim/politician/whomsoever

So who is your political rival?
In order for a party to be competitive it first has to proof that it knows and practices politics.

[elador]

there is no such thing as political rivals in lebanon, there are puppets to foreign powers. one day your rival, tomorrow your ally. all of the above parties have gone through this process.

i expect one day in the near fututre FM and PSP to be our allies. we only have to wait for the saudis and the americans to change their politics.

[Youchka]

I voted FM. All the rest are puppets, yes master, they get their financing, their cheering crowds and even the air they breathe from FM and its Sunni supporters. Remove that from the equation and all the rest will become a shadow. Just think for one second if it wasn't for Hariri's Sunni votes and Saudi financing where all these small parties would have been and you get my point.

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by Youchka

I voted FM. All the rest are puppets, yes master, they get their financing, their cheering crowds and even the air they breathe from FM and its Sunni supporters. Remove that from the equation and all the rest will become a shadow. Just think for one second if it wasn't for Hariri's Sunni votes and Saudi financing where all these small parties would have been and you get my point.

Hariris' Sunni votes didnt help them in Ashrafieh, Koura, Bshare, Batron and Maten. They were even close to knocking aoun down in Keserwen, so I wouldn't underestimate them if I were you.

[Lebanesegirl]

Originally Posted by Saladin

Hariris' Sunni votes didnt help them in Ashrafieh, Koura, Bshare, Batron and Maten. They were even close to knocking aoun down in Keserwen, so I wouldn't underestimate them if I were you.

in Ashrafieh 2000-3000 sunnis voted
in Koura same thing 2000 -3000 voted
Maten the sunnis don't make a difference anyway!!
zahle same thing the sunnis made the difference! 12000 were moved to zahle to vote!

I'm not saying I have a problem with that they are all lebanese but my problem with FM is buying the country and the people!! that's what youchka was trying to explain take out FM u don't see the others alive because th FM party is the boss w 3ala rasoun KSA!! They paid 750 millions for the elections in lebanon!!

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by Lebanesegirl

in Ashrafieh 2000-3000 sunnis voted
in Koura same thing 2000 -3000 voted
Maten the sunnis don't make a difference anyway!!
zahle same thing the sunnis made the difference! 12000 were moved to zahle to vote!

I'm not saying I have a problem with that they are all lebanese but my problem with FM is buying the country and the people!! that's what youchka was trying to explain take out FM u don't see the others alive because th FM party is the boss w 3ala rasoun KSA!! They paid 750 millions for the elections in lebanon!!

Buying people and the country isn't a simple thing to say, people are not sheep it's insulting to say that. It's true that Hariri paid millions in the past elections, however they were spent on electoral machines inside and outside Lebanon only, the opposition did the same you know. As for the 750 million paid by KSA, I've read reports saying Iran has paid an even bigger amount. Whether or not this is true I don't know, my point is don't believe everything you here.