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I am joseph_lubnan and I happen to say whatever I feel like saying, when I feel like saying it :), I am a strong believer in freedom of postings and opinions!

It is really pathetic that when you disagree with people you resort to labeling them and calling them Zionists and such. Try to shake that habit, you can do it.
i read most of your posts and i believe you are very honest lebanese loves his country like me
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How can electing berri as speaker and working for a unity government be classified as attempts to impose "Sunni" rule?
The Shiaa are the largest community in Lebanon, you can't 'choose' who takes 'that' position for us. If you could, you wouldn't hesitate. Imposing rule is by abusing Taef power and not working for a unity government which is exactly what the 14ers have been doing since KSA and Israel decided they do that.
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The Shiaa are the largest community in Lebanon, you can't 'choose' who takes 'that' position for us. If you could, you wouldn't hesitate. Imposing rule is by abusing Taef power and not working for a unity government which is exactly what the 14ers have been doing since KSA and Israel decided they do that.
I like your enthusiasm for your Shiite community's rights. Are you sure you are against federalism and partition? If no one but Shiites can have a say in who becomes speaker, then no one should have a say in who becomes PM but the Sunnis and no one should have a say in who becomes president but the Christians, and from there you can continue to other positions in gov, including the electoral laws.
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I like your enthusiasm for your Shiite community's rights. Are you sure you are against federalism and partition? If no one but Shiites can have a say in who becomes speaker, then no one should have a say in who becomes PM but the Sunnis and no one should have a say in who becomes president but the Christians, and from there you can continue to other positions in gov, including the electoral laws.
Having a say is something and imposing is something else. Having a say is what a unity government is all about.

It's degrading to our status that Saad decides who represents us or anyone else for that matter. It's an insult.
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As it happens, I know in numbers how many expats came to vote for me, or at least how many were brought by the opposition and I know how many the 14 feb brought too. The difference, and you probably know it or else you are the one whose head is in the sand, is enormous.
Yeah as it happens for you , you know the numbers - as you claim. But as it happens for the rest of us , we see no proofs for your claims but those who themselves 'want to' believe that to give reasons for their loss ( loss in %'s of votes only , since C&R increased his MPs count )
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Yeah as it happens for you , you know the numbers - as you claim. But as it happens for the rest of us , we see no proofs for your claims but those who themselves 'want to' believe that to give reasons for their loss ( loss in %'s of votes only , since C&R increased his MPs count )
You see no proofs? Are you blind or something? Every single newspaper, whether pro or against you, admitted that the 14 feb brought voters from abroad in huge numbers that outnumbered by far what the opposition got. Do you think it was hard for us to request sfew million dollars from HA or Iran or whoever and bring in millions of people to vote for us? It was easier than cherbit el may, and I am wll informed, but we do not do that, we do not sell ourselves to anyone no matter what.

So enough with your twisting facts, lying and again, putting your head in the sand.

P.S: when we were seeing the numbers of booked planes and charters months before the elections, many of us asked GMA to actually get us money, because we knew back then that there was no way to compete with those extra thousands coming, his answer to us was :" nobody gives 1 cent for free (by nobody he meant any outside nation). One day, you will have to repay in one way or another, and I do not want to get indebted to anyone, because they may request from me something I wouldn't want to do, and then I would not be free to say no".
Unfortunately, this can't be applied on the 14 feb goons who are indebted to their necks, and god knows how will they repay it.
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You see no proofs? Are you blind or something? Every single newspaper, whether pro or against you, admitted that the 14 feb brought voters from abroad in huge numbers that outnumbered by far what the opposition got. Do you think it was hard for us to request sfew million dollars from HA or Iran or whoever and bring in millions of people to vote for us? It was easier than cherbit el may, and I am wll informed, but we do not do that, we do not sell ourselves to anyone no matter what.

So enough with your twisting facts, lying and again, putting your head in the sand.
Oh my God!! EACH and EVERY newspaper ( the super credible newspapers we have in lebanon - such as al akhbar , al mustaqbal , al safir , you know all credible 100% ). /sarcastic face.
Also , all newspapers said that both parties M8 and M14 are bringing votes from outside. Also weren't you the ones bragging like hell about that ? specially the promised Tashnag votes? and the number was left for 'surprise' ( Lol ) in the elections day?
And again , no one knows who outnumbered who in the diaspora votes.
So again , until you bring your proof ---> you're the one lying , twisting facts , hiding behind your finger , putting your head in the sand , w/e you want to call it.

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P.S: when we were seeing the numbers of booked planes and charters months before the elections, many of us asked GMA to actually get us money, because we knew back then that there was no way to compete with those extra thousands coming, his answer to us was :" nobody gives 1 cent for free (by nobody he meant any outside nation). One day, you will have to repay in one way or another, and I do not want to get indebted to anyone, because they may request from me something I wouldn't want to do, and then I would not be free to say no".
Unfortunately, this can't be applied on the 14 feb goons who are indebted to their necks, and god knows how will they repay it.
I think you said in the same post that its against your principles as FPMers to get money and buy votes , and now you admitted that you asked GMA to get money to get more votes ... contradiction / hypocrisy much? I kindly ask you to keep 1 single opinion , you're competing with Jumblatt now.
Also , whats the point in telling me this story about this 'heroic' decision from GMA ? ok now thanks to you , I adore the principles of the national leader Michel Aoun.
/sarcastic face again.
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