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View Poll Results: What's Happening between Tachnag & Kataeb?
Reconciliation between Tachnag & Kataeb 30 63.83%
Reconciliation between FPM & Kataeb 10 21.28%
Reconciliation between Michel Murr & Tachnag 7 14.89%
Others 9 19.15%
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They sided with Michel Murr and were an integral part of his electoral wins since 1992.. aiding corruption is corruption by itself.

You could keep on using dramatic words such as "debate in a civilized way" or "keep silent" but they only make you laughable when everything I am saying is civilized... actually you're the uncivilized debater.

Here's an advice: If you really believe that my comments are out of line then send a message to the moderators and they will take care of it; as if you didn't know how to do that already
DI you really look funny everytime you reply to me with nonsense arguments... Get your facts straight and then I'll give my time to debate with you... If you need some websites or book names let me know, I'll help you.

P.S. And following your extraordinary logic, everyone allied to Tashnag is also corrupt, so you're accusing FPM also now

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for tashnag there are more things we should care about then lebanese political problems. Karabakh,armenian genocide are priority. We should work on strengthening ourselves inside armenia.
I am all for ignoring intikhabet baladiyet now..
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DI you really look funny everytime you reply to me with nonsense arguments... Get your facts straight and then I'll give my time to debate with you... If you need some websites or book names let me know, I'll help you.

P.S. And following your extraordinary logic, everyone allied to Tashnag is also corrupt, so you're accusing FPM also now

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well yeah sort of...
when you look to the other side only... and stop looking at the corrupted ones that are siding with you then it means defenetly you are corrupted because you own the country and its people to know always the whole truth and not only half of it!

so yeas you are corrupted FPM is courrpted and everybody is!
We live in a very corrupted country!

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well yeah sort of...
when you look to the other side only... and stop looking at the corrupted ones that are siding with you then it means defenetly you are corrupted because you own the country and its people to know always the whole truth and not only half of it!

so yeas you are corrupted FPM is courrpted and everybody is!
We live in a very corrupted country!

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First of all poitics doesn't work this way. If you accuse someone of being corrupt bring proofs of corruption.

The argument ,of accusing someone of being corrupt, being that he is allied to one is week and irrelevant.

So until you bring proofs of corruption you can stay silent too...

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First of all poitics doesn't work this way. If you accuse someone of being corrupt bring proofs of corruption.

The argument ,of accusing someone of being corrupt, being that he is allied to one is week and irrelevant.

So until you bring proofs of corruption you can stay silent too...

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Sorry but all we hear from the opposition and your are part of this opposition!
about 14 march and how corrupted they are!

the problem in Lebanon with the politician is not corrruption! and the last Tashnag moves proves that Tahnag don't have a problem with corrupted politician!


The speech against the corruption is part of playing politics and that's how politics in Lebanon works without limits!
'Dirty Politics'

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for tashnag there are more things we should care about then lebanese political problems. Karabakh,armenian genocide are priority. We should work on strengthening ourselves inside armenia.
I am all for ignoring intikhabet baladiyet now..
it is such statements that gives room for sanyoura, amine and gabriel and and and to make the armenian community look like an outsider one.
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Sorry but all we hear from the opposition and your are part of this opposition!
about 14 march and how corrupted they are!

the problem in Lebanon with the politician is not corrruption! and the last Tashnag moves proves that Tahnag don't have a problem with corrupted politician!


The speech against the corruption is part of playing politics and that's how politics in Lebanon works without limits!
'Dirty Politics'

TC
Again, never generalize in politics...

There is no committee that decides what the opposition should say or state. You want to talk about Tashnag read their official statements and judge.

Have you ever seen us accuse anyone without any proofs? documents?

Talking is easy...

And I'm not against the part in red, but with proofs... Look at the civilized countries and you'll know how parties fight corruption...

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DI you really look funny everytime you reply to me with nonsense arguments... Get your facts straight and then I'll give my time to debate with you... If you need some websites or book names let me know, I'll help you.
Again with your desperate wordings... "nonsense arguments", "look funny", "if you need some websites or books"... yeah dude, I am waiting for someone like you to provide me with websites and books, right

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P.S. And following your extraordinary logic, everyone allied to Tashnag is also corrupt, so you're accusing FPM also now
I was expecting such a tit-for-tat reply, but get this right: FPM did not ally with Michel Murr for 17 years, it did so in 2005 with the declared goal of seeking change within the system... the experiment failed and the party broke its alliance with Murr.

As for Tashnag, they've been in bed with Murr for ages and haven't attempted to change the system because understandably they're beneficiary of clientelism... do you see the difference?
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First of all poitics doesn't work this way. If you accuse someone of being corrupt bring proofs of corruption.

The argument ,of accusing someone of being corrupt, being that he is allied to one is week and irrelevant.

So until you bring proofs of corruption you can stay silent too...

Thank you!!
Armenian please take a moment and read what one of your own ( sev ) just wrote and give me your opinion !



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Armenian, Ignore DI. He is obviously not up to the level of the discussion.for tashnag there are more things we should care about then lebanese political problems. Karabakh,armenian genocide are priority. We should work on strengthening ourselves inside armenia.
I am all for ignoring intikhabet baladiyet now..
i hope you are not a Tashnag spokesman (i dont think you are) and you do not reflect Tachnag Lebanese Armenian opinion and that you are just another irresponsible little kid throwing an irresponsible comment .

i dont know if your comment is just another tasteless bad joke i personaly did not like it, not this particular comment ! .
For me Tachnag is a Lebanese Armenian parti that happen to have MPs in Lebanese parlement and have a popular Lebanese Armenian base born , living and growing in Lebanon they are part of Lebanese society !

your comment is unacceptable and dangerous .
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for tashnag there are more things we should care about then lebanese political problems. Karabakh,armenian genocide are priority. We should work on strengthening ourselves inside armenia.
I am all for ignoring intikhabet baladiyet now..
1- If u don't care about the lebanese problems and u love Armenia more why don't u leave lebanon and go back to Armenia?

2- Lebanon should be ur main concern u and the tashnak party.

3- What u said really is irresponsible take the African Americans in America for example do u ever hear them saying " We don't care about the American problems only africa" No they would never say that because they are Americans FIRST!! They were born and lived in this country for years!

Same thing with u you are Lebanese FIRST I have nothing with u loving Armenia it's the country of ur great great grand parents... but to say that Lebanon is not something u care about u prefer Armenia laken I 100% disagree with u! w fi chi ghalat hon!
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