what's going on in the mind of Sfeir?

[The Jade]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

No one mixes religion and the state more than Hezbollah. They actually put religion, the state, and their weapons in the blender...

The Batrak is expressing an opinion. He doesnt have a political party and he doesnt own any rockets.

That's not exactly the problem here.

If the patriarch wishes to give his political opinion then he has to accept to be treated as a politician.

No free passes for him because he's also the head of the maronite church.

The moment he takes a political stance, he becomes just like any other politician in the country.

So next time an MP treats another of being a traitor or corrupt, the patriarch should accept to be treated the same way, or else let him keep on praying

[PFC]

who's talking about HA we are talking about Sfeir and him mixing church and state

[TayyaRevolution]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

No one mixes religion and the state more than Hezbollah. They actually put religion, the state, and their weapons in the blender...

The Batrak is expressing an opinion. He doesnt have a political party and he doesnt own any rockets.

HA ran openly as a political party. And as a result, it gets attacked like any other political party for it's stances. In fact, some attacks are just despicably racist. But nevertheless.

Now, Sfeir is not a politican. Doesnt have a political party. When he wants to take a political stand and use the cover of the Church, and back one side over another, then he is not untouchable. Just because he has a robe doesn't make him above criticism. He become a normal citizen/politican expressing a political opinion. And as such, can expect a political response.

It's as simple as that.

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

No one mixes religion and the state more than Hezbollah. They actually put religion, the state, and their weapons in the blender...

We believe that politics and religion cannot be separated; that's Islam.

You can criticize your men for mixing religion with state if that goes against your beliefs and understandings; it doesn't go against ours at all. To each his own...

Originally Posted by PFC

who's talking about HA we are talking about Sfeir and him mixing church and state

HA phobics have to bring them into every thread coz they're so frustrated and helpless.

[nuknuk]

The same thing that was going on in Aoun's mind when he met with Pat Robertson. Actually, Sfeir is much more forgiving towards HA compared to Aoun back then.

[elador]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

No one mixes religion and the state more than Hezbollah. They actually put religion, the state, and their weapons in the blender...

The Batrak is expressing an opinion. He doesnt have a political party and he doesnt own any rockets.

saying that the new government should be from 14 mrch only is an opinion.

but saying that hizballah who has offered thousands of martyrs for liberating lebanese soil from the israelis want iran's interest is kharaf, w habal, w satal, w 2ellet fehem, w 2ellet wataniyyeh.

ba3d na2es el batrak y2oul hizballah is a terrorits organization

[modesty]

أن يكون للبطرك الماروني رأي في السياسة، فهذا طبيعي ولكن أن يردد دائماً ما تقوله الادارة الآمريكية فهذا غير طبيعي
والغير طبيعي أن يخاف هو والاسرائيليين من نفس الجهة المفترض فيها أن تكون جالبة للمنعة والعزة للوطن
من الملاحظ أن كل مرة يتشدد الامريكيون تجاه حزب الله
يقوم غبطته بترديد كلامهم على العمياني
لقد قبل اللبنانيون جميعاً أن يتحاوروا لحل قضية السلاح في يد حزب الله، أما غبطته فهو يهدد بتسليح باقي اللبنانيين لحل هذه القضية
أما الوجود الفلسطيني المسلح وغير المسلح فلا يهمه أمره لماذا لا أحد يعرف
موقفه دائماً يتطابق مع موقف الاسرائيليين الذين يتهمون حزب الله بشتى الاتهامات أما الفلسطينيين في لبنان فلا أحد يجيب سيرتهم
يفهم من كلامه انه غير راضيً من نتيجة تقارب الحريري عون وهذا ما يدل على تحيزه وانفعاله الشخصي بعدما وجه له الجنرال أكبر أهانة في الانتخابات الماضية في عقر داره كسروان
يبدو ان الحقد أصبح من صفات رجال الدين عندنا ونأسف أن يكون مستواهم وصل الى مستوى الجوزو وغيره من الموتورين والمتعصبين

[kappa273]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

No one can convince the majority of the Christian community that Hezbollah's weapons are a good thing for the country today. Most FPMers probably agree with the Batrak anyway, but they may be too partisan to admit it even to themselves...

why don't you look again at the results of the elections few months ago?

Hariri didn't get more than 49% of the Christians' vote and he had one and only one item on his electoral plan: HA weapons (of course it disappeared on June 8th and all those who voted for Hariri must feel very intelligent)...

so how do you reconcile those results with your statement?

kappa

[Lebanesegirl]

Me as a CHRISTIAN from Lebanon I proudly say I feel ashamed to have u as a Batrak!! oh wait I'm not a maronite so I don't count!

Sfeir kharab l mase7iye w ba3do 3am bi kamil!! This man lost his mind!!

[Aoun is rou2yaweh]

2el hay2a el Batrak tali3 3a belo nerja3 nra2so chway, barkeh byefham.
Law kena frensewiyeh kena 2ata3nelo rasso men zamen.