what's going on in the mind of Sfeir?

[teshesh]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

If the weight of his stand is zero then why all the hubbub about it? You and Hezbollah should ignore it and move on your merry way towards a 25% popular support within the Christian community in 2013.

hubbub? where is the hubbub? are you serious? did you even read what was noted out by the newspapers? did you see how HA reacted? if jumbi, saad, mufti, or any other political or religious figure in lebanon made such a stand, HA's reaction would be much much bigger. it would be about "noticeable". but when it is batrak speaking, nothing, no reaction at all, just about the weight that batrak's stands have. unless you consider
HA is ignoring it and is moving on toward 75% of popular support, the 25% being already crossed long time ago.

[joseph_lubnan]

Originally Posted by teshesh

hubbub? where is the hubbub? are you serious? did you even read what was noted out by the newspapers? did you see how HA reacted? if jumbi, saad, mufti, or any other political or religious figure in lebanon made such a stand, HA's reaction would be much much bigger. it would be about "noticeable". but when it is batrak speaking, nothing, no reaction at all, just about the weight that batrak's stands have. unless you consider
HA is ignoring it and is moving on toward 75% of popular support, the 25% being already crossed long time ago.

Someone should point out the trend to you. You moved from 70 to 50, and if you continue on your merry way 25 isnt that far.

The Batrak got plenty of coverage in his community. This is whats most important. And Hezbollah responded as well. One thing to note is that Hezbollah are not idiots, and they understand if they respond in a stronger way they will help you down to your 25% tomorrow and not in 2013, they dont want that because, for now they still need you.

[Revolution1989]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

Someone should point out the trend to you. You moved from 70 to 50, and if you continue on your merry way 25 isnt that far.

The Batrak got plenty of coverage in his community. This is whats most important.

Great... you should be excited then, right? Finally the demise of the great evil FPM and the defeat of HA at the hands of our dearest batrak (note: I am maronite and think he is a disgrace).

You support what he said, that's fine. You have no facts to support your statement that it is what his community wants him to say or what every Lebanese thinks... You only represent yourself... not a lot compared to a community.

As a member of his "maronite flock" I find what he said despicable... And clearly timed to support his political allies, that don't care about HA's weapons, nor about the Palestinians weapons and definitely not about returning the christian displaced to the mountain...

[teshesh]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

Someone should point out the trend to you. You moved from 70 to 50, and if you continue on your merry way 25 isnt that far.

The Batrak got plenty of coverage in his community. This is whats most important. And Hezbollah responded as well. One thing to note is that Hezbollah are not idiots, and they understand if they respond in a stronger way they will help you down to your 25% tomorrow and not in 2013, they dont want that because, for now they still need you.

ok tayyib 0.5 % as you wish. again i'm not arguing that with you.
batrak had no significant coverage at all in his community in this issue, unless what you mean by "coverage" few LF guys cheering up.
when you speak about coverage in a political term, you see all the notable figures, political, religious, social, and even economic "endorsing" his point of view. this happened sometimes in the past, when batrak made a declaration, and you saw in the upcoming week all the maronite and christian deputies ministers presidents ex presidents etc etc ... rushed into bkerki to show and declare their support to what was being declared. did you see that when batrak made his issue about HA? NO. even LF or kataeb ya man, didn't stand clearly and loudly with him. all what he got is an article from ali hmedeh, and few declaration of shy support from second class politicians. how sad! how pathetic! where are those days when once a batrak declared an issue all the political opponents used to show clear and loud support? ya haram.

[hannaalsayssa]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

Someone should point out the trend to you. You moved from 70 to 50, and if you continue on your merry way 25 isnt that far.

The Batrak got plenty of coverage in his community. This is whats most important. And Hezbollah responded as well. One thing to note is that Hezbollah are not idiots, and they understand if they respond in a stronger way they will help you down to your 25% tomorrow and not in 2013, they dont want that because, for now they still need you.

so you agree with juzu???????????? than.

[ohyeah]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

It is the right of every citizen and certainly the right of the Batrak to point out the FACT that Hezbollah is ruling Lebanon militarily and acts in many ways as a proxy militia for its regional sponsors. The Batrak is speaking the truth. He is expressing the feelings and thoughts of the majority in his community. Hezbollah's militia has performed a camouflaged coup d'etat since 2005, and no one should remain silent on this issue.

Today anyone that defends Hezbollah's weapons is collaborating with the new-occupation. Not much better than when some defended the Syrian occupation, collaborated and benefited from it.

Everyone in Lebanon not only the Batrak should say it out loud, as loud as they can, a resounding NO to Hezbollah's militia. They should lay down their arms today before tomorrow voluntarily and unconditionally.

again you haven't told us whom majority you talk about?
you means that that more than 55% of Lebanese are collaborators,so you suffer from something and I am not sure of what you suffer from.

The totalitarian language you talk in is very hard for anyone to respect or even discuss.

another question where were you and mr.Sfeir when HA was liberations the land and when Israel was occupying Lebanon?

About Palestinian weapon, we haven't heard any word about these weapons,tell me why?
THX

[ohyeah]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

Someone should point out the trend to you. You moved from 70 to 50, and if you continue on your merry way 25 isnt that far.

The Batrak got plenty of coverage in his community. This is whats most important. And Hezbollah responded as well. One thing to note is that Hezbollah are not idiots, and they understand if they respond in a stronger way they will help you down to your 25% tomorrow and not in 2013, they dont want that because, for now they still need you.

Everyone need everyone in any country.

Again history of Mr.Sfeir can tell you why he say that?and his history from 88 to 90 to 94 to 2003 could tell what I talk about .

[Aoun is rou2yaweh]

Originally Posted by Aoun is rou2yaweh

Man, yaret I see you this much worried about the palestinian weapons.
I hear you complaining about Aoun not making it an issue, but why don't YOU make it an issue in all of your posts and talk about the de facto presence and rule of palestinians on Lebanese land???
Is it because you are a victim of Israeli propaganda?? I think so.

Shou Joseph, no answer??

[theMightyRedV]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

How nicely barbaric to threaten left and right. People including the Batrak can have their opinion about your weapons, and they have every right to express it. You can respond to them if you want, that's about it, but anything beyond that is nothing short of thuggish.

lol @ barbaric, walla mahdoum...if HA were barbaric given their position of military strength and man power, they'd be massacring innocent civilians at checkpoints . And HA have been upfront - HA have threatened anyone who seeks to disarm us without an agreed alternative. And HA will continue to threaten anyone seeking to disarm us in the current climate.

"israel" is at war using their[]bi Lebnen against us, and you want the resistance to disarm because theyre fighting for Iran mahek? Look at M14 before you want to discuss the weapons of the resistance. Fa hold your holy batrak high and proud, Allah ykhalli fo2 rasak coz people like you deserve no better, let him teach you what resistance is, while we fight to defend "Iran".

As long as "israel" has its espionage network in "Iran", we will be steadfast. As long as "israel" violates "Iran's" airspace, we will be steadfast. As long as "israel" plants surveillance equipment in "Iran", we will be steadfast. As long as "israel" threatens our beautiful "Iran", we will be steadfast. As long as "israel" occupies a drop of "Iran", we will be steadfast.

We will defend ourselves and uphold our dignity when anyone encroaches on us to compromise this. 2008 was a strictly measured, and restrained example. That is being bluntly honest. Call it thuggish or whatever you please lol. We have never deprived anyone from expressing their opinion. When 3a2el Hashem was detonated into oblivion for the worthless scum that he was, Sfeir sent a beloved delegation to his beloved 3a2el. When Sfeir wants to stand up and bow his head to a man that has played a major hand in massacring our civilians and 2aweder, we are entitled to see him the way we do. If he says we are Iranians, eh ok, tekram lafto we're Iranians.

When those who lick the dirt off "israels" shoes start acting on "israels" command next time round, all of Lebanon is going to see how HA were the total opposite of thuggish in the past.

Stay tuned sunshine .

[Mr Watani]

the batrak is not after the presidency
neither to be MP , PM or speaker of the house
too old to be a pope bashing him will hurt us not help us
bashing him from members not known as christians will triger sectarian feelings among the christians