what's going on in the mind of Sfeir?

[PFC]

[Lallous]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

Many Christians voted for GMA despite the fact that they oppose Hezbollah's weapons and agree with the Batrak's statements in this thread. They simply support GMA and are willing, right or wrong, to overlook the issue of Hezbollah for a variety of reasons, like pragmaticorealism, or to leverage HA for short term political gain, or simply because they "trust" GMA, or because they are afraid of Sunni dominance, for example... The fact that some of the Christian street support GMA doesn't mean support for HA, there is a separate FPM identity you know!

The above is obviously my opinion, but I am willing to bet that it is shared by many FPMers, and I am 100% sure it is shared by Hezbollah.

This is what you call leadership, something the Christians have been missing for the last 20 years. Christians will eventually adapt to this strategic move and take off their cocoon they have been living in since the inception of the Lebanese state. FPM will go on and this partnership with HA is a long standing one, but if there is one thing I could agree with you is that FPM must capitulate on other issues so the transition could be done more smoothly. It already broke a barrier between two large sects, something your dear Patriarch has failed to do with his short-sighted vision relying on foreign powers to save the Christians and inflating their narcissist ego to the point of almost losing it all hadn't been for GMA and FPM. What a sadist for his own community.

[PFC]

inquisition is over somebody should remind Sfeir of it

[Robin Hood]

Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_LF

Gharib amrkoun into! The people who come in the middle of the night and stab an innocent resident just because of where he lives and the religion he belongs too are working for national harmony ma heik? The people who shoot down an army helicopter and execute its pilot in cold blood want national unity.
And the people who criticize them are instigating civil war! Aounist backward logic 101! LOL!

How do you know it was HA who stabbed the guy? Did they show u their IDs?

[Robin Hood]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

It is absolutely his place to express the feelings of the Christian community.

When Lebanese people including the Batrack express their views of Hezbollah's militia and weapons, they are not spreading the seeds of civil war. If anything it is Hezbollah's insistence on wielding arms and leveraging them internally for control and political sway, it is that kind of muscle flexing and undemocratic military control that threatens the stability off the country.

Yes Patriarch Sfeir represents the Christian community, for that reason Aoun wasn't defeated in the elections.

[jnooobi]

the guy is just scared of samir geagea and he hate aoun its that simple.

[Robin Hood]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

1. All the Maronites in Lebanon are represented by the Batrak.
2. The vast majority of the Maronites and Christinas agree with the Batrak's opinion of the Hezbollah weapons regardless whether they agree or not with his lack-of-support for GMA...
3. Beware, you are losing your sense of your own FPM identity...

If these Maronites are against HA, why are they supporting GMA, who is HA's ally?

[joseph_lubnan]

Originally Posted by Robin Hood

Yes Patriarch Sfeir represents the Christian community, for that reason Aoun wasn't defeated in the elections.

Your mind is hopping around all over the place. Yes the Batrak represents the Christian community. No he is not an elected official. Yes GMA won in Kesrwen. No he didn't win in many other places. Yes many Christians support GMA. Yes many Christians oppose GMA.

But the vast majority of Christians oppose Hezbollah's weapons and agree with the Batrak's statements here, even if they may be at odds with him on many other issues.

BTW, GMA's win in Kesrwen was very weak, even for his very own seat! In fact scary weak. So be scared, fear is a good thing.

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by ohyeah

1-and if someone don't want what can he do?
2-52% of Christians voted Aoun and HA.some knowledge plz

it is not proper to interrupt a goebles when he is preaching about fascist values

the year is 2009 and some ppl still think this is fascist or feudal europe

every thing he said is wortheless at best for one who refuses feudal lords 'representing him' by force

3eb 3eb and 3eb

these zouzou ebba are sad taliban without the cool beards

ousama elie and charbel bin ladens..

2009 ya bashar, 2009 and they call themselves 21st century christians..

sfeir is burning our old community here using the church to serve his greed and they smile and clap for him

[jnooobi]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

Your mind is hopping around all over the place. Yes the Batrak represents the Christian community. No he is not an elected official. Yes GMA won in Kesrwen. No he didn't win in many other places. Yes many Christians support GMA. Yes many Christians oppose GMA.

But the vast majority of Christians oppose Hezbollah's weapons and agree with the Batrak's statements here, even if they may be at odds with him on many other issues.

BTW, GMA's win in Kesrwen was very weak, even for his very own seat! In fact scary weak. So be scared, fear is a good thing.

lol a very weak argument yet again.