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you sincerely think that they do not have evidence and proofs?
If they have proofs, why did they keep them under arrest for 3 years against the laws without formally accusing them?
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LOL. in netherlands, they base their accsations on evidences and proofs and as you said there is nothing against them. La hague is not in Saudi where sentences are based on illiterate old blind judge's feelings and mood.
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If they have proofs, why did they keep them under arrest for 3 years against the laws without formally accusing them?
waiting for the IT to take place. they cannot give any details. logically, the IT as from 1st of march will start calling all the suspect based on evidence, (obviously their names are in) and we will all watch the 4 generals crimminals landing in la hague, ready to face the hard sentence of life prison!

but then again you are right on them being under arrest for 3 years against the laws. but what to do? as once Henry Kissinger said: The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer. and this is the case.

but come on, after all they did against Lebanese people those 4 generals, 3 years in jail is a tiny details. bassita bassita.
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waiting for the IT to take place. they cannot give any details. logically, the IT as from 1st of march will start calling all the suspect based on evidence, (obviously their names are in) and we will all watch the 4 generals crimminals landing in la hague, ready to face the hard sentence of life prison!

but then again you are right on them being under arrest for 3 years against the laws. but what to do? as once Henry Kissinger said: The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer. and this is the case.

but come on, after all they did against Lebanese people those 4 generals, 3 years in jail is a tiny details. bassita bassita.
How do you know? Are you Belmar's assistant? Do you know that the 4 generals were arrested following the testimony of Siddik who turned out to be a liar?


From Belmar's interview to akhbar newspaper:

في التقريرين الأوّلين للجنة التحقيق الدولية، قدّم ميليس معلومات مفصلة وأسماءً، فيما براميرتس وأنت اعتمدتما السرية في هذا الإطار، ألا يشير ذلك إلى ازدواجية في المعايير التي تعتمدها اللجنة، مما يفتح أبواب التشكيك الواسعة؟


أنا أفهم هذه النظرة من الناس، فنحن لجنة واحدة، لكنني أستطيع أن أقول لك إن السيد براميرتس اعتمد المعايير التي أعتمدها، وموقفي يبقى ثابتاً. وأنا لن أعلّق على ما قام به من سبقني في رئاسة اللجنة. لكننا نريد أن نتأكد أن الجمهور لديه ثقة بأننا لا نتأثر بالسياسة أو بأي أمر آخر


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waiting for the IT to take place. they cannot give any details. logically, the IT as from 1st of march will start calling all the suspect based on evidence, (obviously their names are in) and we will all watch the 4 generals crimminals landing in la hague, ready to face the hard sentence of life prison!

but then again you are right on them being under arrest for 3 years against the laws. but what to do? as once Henry Kissinger said: The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer. and this is the case.

but come on, after all they did against Lebanese people those 4 generals, 3 years in jail is a tiny details. bassita bassita.
they may deserve to be in jail, if not for hariri's assassination then for other things. the question that has always intrigued me though is how subjective justice can be made to be.

the assassination of hariri created ripple effects that are still lasting four years after the fact. while close to a hundred thousand individuals were killed and no one bothers to build them a small tablet so that we can at least remember their names. the truth is simply measured by the weight of someone's gold, or someone's belly, the martyr was a big man.

the irony of it all is that the same people who raise the flags of truth and justice in the Hariri case are the ones contributed to offing a big portion of those 100000 martyrs. yet bi kell wa2e7a, they think themselves entitled to have a say in who goes in to jail and who goes out of it.

the irony transforms into something rather satiric when i see that they can still gather up some masses to support them. and there is not even a word to begin describing you, centrists. we are neither with the right nor with the wrong, we are in between, for what is right but wrong seen from another perspective? yalla doom yourself to generations of darkness... i dont hate you though, if i really hated you i would wish for your centrists to win so that you will suffer the consequences of your own actions.
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How do you know? Are you Belmar's assistant? Do you know that the 4 generals were arrested following the testimony of Siddik who turned out to be a liar?


From Belmar's interview to akhbar newspaper:

في التقريرين الأوّلين للجنة التحقيق الدولية، قدّم ميليس معلومات مفصلة وأسماءً، فيما براميرتس وأنت اعتمدتما السرية في هذا الإطار، ألا يشير ذلك إلى ازدواجية في المعايير التي تعتمدها اللجنة، مما يفتح أبواب التشكيك الواسعة؟


أنا أفهم هذه النظرة من الناس، فنحن لجنة واحدة، لكنني أستطيع أن أقول لك إن السيد براميرتس اعتمد المعايير التي أعتمدها، وموقفي يبقى ثابتاً. وأنا لن أعلّق على ما قام به من سبقني في رئاسة اللجنة. لكننا نريد أن نتأكد أن الجمهور لديه ثقة بأننا لا نتأثر بالسياسة أو بأي أمر آخر


Belmar implying that he isn't influenced by politics as Mehlis

his personal assistant. yalla anyways nothing will change till the tribunal is on! after that we will see who was right and who was wrong. if they were wrong, simple apologies by letter and the file is closed. if the are right, we will see then rotting far aways from Lebanon. for the moment we dont have any news. no news, good news.
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تردد ان احد الضباط الموقوفين في جريمة اغتيال الرئيس الحريري قد يتم اخلاﺀ سبيله بسبب خلو ملفه من مبررات بقائه قيد التوقيف
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his personal assistant. yalla anyways nothing will change till the tribunal is on! after that we will see who was right and who was wrong. if they were wrong, simple apologies by letter and the file is closed. if the are right, we will see then rotting far aways from Lebanon. for the moment we dont have any news. no news, good news.
Simple appology? you are delusional if things will be done with a simple appology. It will be waaaaaaaaay more than that. This is what is disturbing the hypocrites who used to drink from the Syrian shoes then switched to drink from rice's shoes.

The hypocrites were really deeply convinced that the syrian regime will be gone soon so nobody will even give a penny about the whole 4 general thing and the whole circus of the Hariri killing investigation that underwent under Mehlis. Hariri the kid thought he really can remove the Syrian regime and had all his eggs in one basket. He woke to the harsh reality of himself and those around him.
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تردد ان احد الضباط الموقوفين في جريمة اغتيال الرئيس الحريري قد يتم اخلاﺀ سبيله بسبب خلو ملفه من مبررات بقائه قيد التوقيف
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It won't be one general. It will all of them because it is only one allegation about a fabricated witness (hmede had the biggest hand in this).
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it is called La Hague

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Thanks Diabolo. I thought it was Lahay in Arabic, The Hague in English. I may be wrong.

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