What does Hariri have against ministers Baroud and Bassil

[Placebo]

Originally Posted by GMA forever

GMA said this after the formation of the 2005 government, when they gave all the christian ministers to the loosers in the christian street parliamentary elections. He wasn't talking about specific personalities, but rather about parties and blocks.

General Abou Jamra, minister Jibran Bassil and Dr. Mario Aoun are some of the brightest FPMers out there .

CAn you please tell me in what Abou Jamra and Mario Aoun are "brightest".

I think it's quite the contrary. Abou jamra is just a loyal FPMer there's no doubt about that. but frankly he has no added value whatsoever. it was quite clear during the elections anyway.

FPM should give more credit to Alain Aoun, nicolas sehnaoui & ziad abs.
Frankly i would love to see Abs as a minister.

[Ataraxia]

... because they rarely showed any political tendencies during their time in the government. I mean even Bassil, go see his interviews, most of the time he was talking about the government and the ministry of telecommunication. He tried to avoid the political matters. This seemed to have attracted neutrals and even pro-14 March supporters. Once you try to distant political matters and control of the government and get the right man to the job, it will hurt Hariri's company.

[joseph_lubnan]

Originally Posted by Diabolo_7

"الديار": الحريري يبدي ملاحظات على عودة بارود وباسيل للحكومة

18 تموز 2009
اشارت صحيفة "الديار" الى ان الرئيس المكلف تشكيل الحكومة سعد الحريري يبدي ملاحظات على عودة وزير الداخلية زياد بارود الى وزارة الداخلية وكذلك وزير الاتصالات جبران باسيل،

those 2 ministers were the top performers in the current govt. why would Hariri have any criticism regarding their performance?

Is the performance of the likes of Marouni, Najjar, Elias el Murr better than the aforementioned 2????

I think this newspaper is running out of things to write.

[Joumana Gebara]

لربما يبدي الرئيس المكلف ملاحظات إيجابية لعودة الوزيرين باسيل وبارود؟

ولما العجب أن يبدي ملاحظات؟ ابتدأت المحاسبة،
فالرئيس المكلف يبدي شهامة وقوة إرادة بأدائه ، فاليحاسب هذا الرئيس العظيم

فالنحاسب كل الوزراء ونقدم هذه المحاسبة للرئيس المكلف، فالرئيس المكلف عليه أن يوضح لماذا يحق لطارق متري بتوظيف ١٦ شخص دون طلب رصيد قبل توظيفهم، وبعد أن أضاءت إحدى هؤلاء الموظفين على المشكلة تم طلب الدفع دون أن يدفع إلى من أشار إلى المشكلة بل تم زجها بتهمة وتلفيق إلى التوقيف كي يؤدبوها وتتعلم بعدم المطالبة بحقها وتسليط الضوء على الأغلاط التي قام بها الوزير والمديرة لأنهم السلطة والسلطة يحق لها ما لا يحق للموظف
فاليحاسب الرئيس المكلف حريري من سرق لقمة عيش الأطفال والعائلات، فاليحاسب طارق متري ولور سليمان السارقين والكاذبين المحترفين، وليحاسبهما عل زج ابرياء إلى التوقيف، فاليلاحظ ويأخذ الملاحظات ويستلحظ
هو ورفيقه البلا أخلاق سنيورة...

هذه ملاحظتي للموضوع

[Chaos]

I think that the rumour of Sa2doun beeing against Bassil and Baroud is just a fake news to boost their diminushing reputation in the Christian public.
Just read the thread " Minister Ziad Baroud evaluation " and see how much Baroud is serving the 14th March Mafia.
Also after every meeting between Sa2doun and Bassil, the later is very optimistic and preaches for Sa2doun. Yesterday in an article in the "Al Akhbar" newspaper, Bassil was described as a minister not defending his colleagues of the 8th March, and much closer to the secision makers than to the common people.
So be carefull of the misinformation.................

[Sa3id Sale7]

Originally Posted by diabolo_7

"الديار": الحريري يبدي ملاحظات على عودة بارود وباسيل للحكومة

18 تموز 2009
اشارت صحيفة "الديار" الى ان الرئيس المكلف تشكيل الحكومة سعد الحريري يبدي ملاحظات على عودة وزير الداخلية زياد بارود الى وزارة الداخلية وكذلك وزير الاتصالات جبران باسيل،

those 2 ministers were the top performers in the current govt. Why would hariri have any criticism regarding their performance?

Is the performance of the likes of marouni, najjar, elias el murr better than the aforementioned 2????

منذُ متى كانت جريدة الديار وسيلة إعلامية معتمدة ؟

[GMA forever]

Originally Posted by Placebo

CAn you please tell me in what Abou Jamra and Mario Aoun are "brightest".

I think it's quite the contrary. Abou jamra is just a loyal FPMer there's no doubt about that. but frankly he has no added value whatsoever. it was quite clear during the elections anyway.

FPM should give more credit to Alain Aoun, nicolas sehnaoui & ziad abs.
Frankly i would love to see Abs as a minister.

The history of General Abou Jamra or Dr. Mario Aoun speaks for itself, those people can be trusted in any ministry they will hold.

Don't misunderstand me, I am not against new faces from FPM such as Nicolas Sehnaoui & Ziad Abs also holding ministries and getting more responsible positions, it is just that you are putting the one against the other, and this is what I don't agree at.

At FPM the individual is not as essential as the program, and I will trust the leadership to choose the right person for the right ministry if we decide to join it, whether it was General Abou Jamra, Dr. Aoun, Sahnaoui, Bassil, Abs or, or, or ......

[Chaos]

Originally Posted by GMA forever

The history of General Abou Jamra or Dr. Mario Aoun speaks for itself, those people can be trusted in any ministry they will hold.

Don't misunderstand me, I am not against new faces from FPM such as Nicolas Sehnaoui & Ziad Abs also holding ministries and getting more responsible positions, it is just that you are putting the one against the other, and this is what I don't agree at.

At FPM the individual is not as essential as the program, and I will trust the leadership to choose the right person for the right ministry if we decide to join it, whether it was General Abou Jamra, Dr. Aoun, Sahnaoui, Bassil, Abs or, or, or ......

Just like the former URSS

[GMA forever]

Originally Posted by Chaos

Just like the former URSS

Just like every free, democratic and civilised country in the world, and not a third world one where the people are ghanam being bought and sold at auctions, or played at with the same old carrot and stick game.

[woody]

Originally Posted by Diabolo_7

"الديار": الحريري يبدي ملاحظات على عودة بارود وباسيل للحكومة

18 تموز 2009
اشارت صحيفة "الديار" الى ان الرئيس المكلف تشكيل الحكومة سعد الحريري يبدي ملاحظات على عودة وزير الداخلية زياد بارود الى وزارة الداخلية وكذلك وزير الاتصالات جبران باسيل،

those 2 ministers were the top performers in the current govt. why would Hariri have any criticism regarding their performance?

Is the performance of the likes of Marouni, Najjar, Elias el Murr better than the aforementioned 2????

another reason he likes people to obey,and to be submissive so as not to impede his action.