War on Gaza - Open discussion

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by tae

Olmert and his IDF gave a clear cut proof after this war that they are not able to stop the rockets from Gaza .. they did their best and they couldn't stop them ..
From now on israel should not rely much on their ministry of tourism or maybe their minister of tourism should coordinate with Hamas from now on.

Khaled Meshal is not bad as Israel's minister of tourism...I'm sure that he can forecast the weather with a high degree of accuracy...hehe

[tae]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

Yes "Ehud 1" and "Ehud 2"...But the real scary one would be named "Tzipi"...Especially designed to fight teghogh...hehe

Condoleessa is a bad luck for everyone she supports.
she suppored Sanioura, and he disappointed her, she supported Ehud in July 2006, he lost the war, then she supported Abbas, he failed in the elections, she suppored Tzippi .. and she recommended to continue the war until they reach a UN resolution that garantees the security of Israel .. kamen they failed ..

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by tae

Condoleessa is a bad luck for everyone she supports.
she suppored Sanioura, and he disappointed her, she supported Ehud in July 2006, he lost the war, then she supported Abbas, he failed in the elections, she suppored Tzippi .. and she recommended to continue the war until they reach a UN resolution that garantees the security of Israel .. kamen they failed ..

Codolezza deserves not only a road in her name...She is helping us reshape the middle-east after all...so i suggest we name a whole highway after her.

You know that highway that Hariri was building called "Autostrad El Salam" and that was supposed to link all the countries together?

Well,i suggest that we name it "Autostrade Condolezza Rice" because this will be soon for us, the fastest way to get to Tel Aviv...If we follow the Condi lane...hehe

[tae]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

Khaled Meshal is not bad as Israel's minister of tourism...I'm sure that he can forecast the weather with a high degree of accuracy...hehe

Actually, he is the one who decides when it should rain in sderot

[Orangehearted]

Weird though, the israelis and pro-israelis that we have in here are not saying much. I remember Centrist for example predicting Geagea style the defeat of Hamas several times.

I predict that now Centrist will come and say Israel won because they suffered less casualties.

[tae]

Originally Posted by Orangehearted

Weird though, the israelis and pro-israelis that we have in here are not saying much. I remember Centrist for example predicting Geagea style the defeat of Hamas several times.

I predict that now Centrist will come and say Israel won because they suffered less casualties.

this thread is not very interesting for pro-israel
what do ou want them to say?
Israel won? won what and how?

[Orangehearted]

Originally Posted by tae

this thread is not very interesting for pro-israel
what do ou want them to say?
Israel won? won what and how?

Well, here are some of the things they were saying in this very thread. Look at it in a sort of before and after scenario.

Before:

Originally Posted by centrist

anyway all this situation will end within a week =10 days. Israel would have tought a good lesson to hamas. I really doubt they will dare to fire a rocket after all this mess.

Originally Posted by centrist

It seems hamas will not be able to resist anymore.

Originally Posted by MockingBird

what defeat and what argument???
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anyway Total Win is coming this time - no more jokes with extremists

After:

Zi Zi Zi Zi Zi

[kappa273]

Apparently Livni missed the shoe....



Journalist calls Livni 'terrorist' during press conference on Gaza operation
By Natasha Mozgovaya, Haaretz Correspondent and The Associated Press



Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni had a testy press conference Friday in Washington, D.C., moments after she signed an agreement with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice meant to combat arms smuggling to Gaza.

From the starting moments of the press conference, Livni was beset by a less-than friendly barrage of questions, with a number of journalists asserting that Israel's military operations in Gaza will only make Middle East peace more distant.

Some journalists went so far as to compare the Israeli government to that of dictator Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe, due to Israel's decision to bar journalists from Gaza.

One of the more tense moments came when one journalist began to quote at length a Human Rights report on the situation in Gaza, before asking Livni to comment on "the murder of innocent civilians in the Strip."

When the man was asked to finish his question, he yelled out that Livni had been speaking for an hour and that the journalists weren't being allowed to ask questions. He then asked since when the U.S. has been hosting "terrorists".

To her credit, Livni managed to keep her cool, and expressed her desire to answer the question. When he finished, she answered that Israel "did not want to get involved in the internal matters of the Palestinian Authority, that's why we left the Gaza Strip unilaterally, but we got terror in return. We try all we can to avoid harming civilians, but it happens."

A number of other journalists asked questions that included quotes from the human rights report, asking if Israel needs to be held responsible for the failure of the cease-fire due to the decision to enact a blockade on the Gaza Strip.

While she was speaking inside, a protest was being held outside the building by an anti-war group calling themselves "Code Pink", who repeatedly chanted "there is a war criminal in this building."

[Abufijli]

Great song for Gaza:

[Fakhr eddine 1618]

ليفني: نمثل مصالح المعتدلين العرب ولا لضبط النفس بعد الآن إذا استهدفنا
18 كانون الثاني 2009

أعربت وزيرة الخارجية الاسرائيلية تسيبي ليفني عن عدم تحبيذها لتعبير "وقف إطلاق النار"، لأنه يبدو وكأنه اتفاق بين جهتين شرعيتين مشيرة إلى أنّ الصراع الذي تخوضه إسرائيل ليس صراعا بين دولتين بل هو قتال ضد الإرهاب مؤكدة الاستمرار في محاربة الإرهاب.
ليفني، وفي حديث إلى صحيفة "نيوزويك" ينشر الأسبوع المقبل، لفتت إلى أن هدف إسرائيل هو إضعاف حركة حماس والتأثير في حافزها فضلاً عن توقيف تهريب الأسلحة إلى غزة.
وأكدت ليفني أن الفكرة ليست إعادة احتلال غزة قائلة أن "عودتنا إليها اليوم هي بسبب الإرهاب والإرهاب لا يخدم مصالح الفلسطينيين" موضحة أنّ إرسال جنود إسرائيليين برا إلى غزة كان قرارا صعبا حتما لكنه يبدو صائباً الآن.
ورأت ليفني أنّ استراتيجية حماس مبنية على المقاومة والبقاء مشيرة إلى أنه انتصار لهم ما داموا موجودين "وعندما يعرفون أن المجتمع الدولي يمارس الضغط على إسرائيل، يستطيعون المماطلة، بانتظار إيقاف إسرائيل" مؤكدة أن إسرائيل ستعاود التصرف في حال استهدفت مجدداً.
ليفني جزمت أن إسرائيل لن تقوم بعد اليوم بأي ضبط للنفس "وسوف نهاجم بقوة إذا تابعوا أعمالهم ولن ننتظر سنوات أو أشهرا."
ورداً على سؤال عما إذا كانت تشعر أنها تتمتع بدعم العرب المعتدلين، قالت ليفني "لا أريد إحراج أحد، ولكن أنا أعلم أني أمثل مصالحهم أيضا. لم نعد اليوم أمام صراع إسرائيلي فلسطيني أو عربي يهودي، بل أمام صراع بين المعتدلين والمتطرفين. هكذا تنقسم المنطقة اليوم".

So nothing to hide anymore

Saudi Arabia / Jordan / Egypt + their little puppets in Lebanon are in the Israeli Axis
I don't think they should hide it anymore, being Israeli isn't a crime anymore in the Arabworld