Walid Joumblat's Post-elections Flip Flop

[Youchka]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

the difference between walid beik and your general is that he seeks good relations with syria after the elections and not before... w fehmkon kefe.

But this is called cheating. See I have been preaching for days now that we should act like them, and yet some people still talk to me about principles. Wake up ya helwin.

[coralie]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

the difference between walid beik and your general is that he seeks good relations with syria after the elections and not before... w fehmkon kefe.

no wonder we are sinking in an ocean of S**t ... all the moral values are upside down in this country ! w fehmak kfeyeh .

[Anny]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

the difference between walid beik and your general is that he seeks good relations with syria after the elections and not before... w fehmkon kefe.

I seriously think his strategy of appologizing after the elections was not a good idea for him since the people who voted for him because of the syria/iran axis and specially the people who voted for him because he was with March 14 and not because of him itself as a deputy showed them that they voted for liars and hypocrite people. He was attacking Syria just to win their votes, and those people got screwed up by a big propaghanda machine, so in the next elections, it will prove that FPM along with the opposition are not lying to their people and they are truthfull partie while March 14 and PSP party along with FM are meaningly lying to people just to win their vote and after the elections they do exactly the opposite of what they were attacking. So please wake up and smell the fresh coffee of those who voted for the majority because not even after hours from the elections, they begun to protect Syria intentions? WTF

Plus next time you want to vote for those hypocrites, ask them to include a contract writen for you on paper so you can sew them after the elections to proved you wrong!

[Anny]

Originally Posted by Youchka

But this is called cheating. See I have been preaching for days now that we should act like them, and yet some people still talk to me about principles. Wake up ya helwin.

No seriously, what we should do is telling people on media that they were lying to them to win their vote because after the elections they went to Syria and they agreed on HA weapons and they were lying to them to win their vote, so people should sew them and blablabla on tv seriously, this will give us alot of credit. I hear people who were with them saying that they were lying to them, we should exploit that seriously

[Robin Hood]

Originally Posted by latinorange

WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING HERE????????

it's all bee a huge lie...Hariri is going to ignore HA's weapons, probably they'll reach some kind of agreement to limit their use or anything...Jumblat after years of bashing Syria, accusing them of killing Hariri, his father, mother, cousins, friends, dogs etc... and after a few days from election day he just wants to apologise and turn a new page?????????even ja3ja3 was nice to HA a couple of days ago!!!

5ayye...ma 3am bifham shi!!!!! tab any jins 3atel around to share his views????????? wein noumoor tareek ljedeedeh, wein l ishtirakiyye, wein bcharri, wein nayla, marouni, nadim wil 2orta killa???? wein l batrak akho*******??????

i expected such moves and shifts...but 4 days after the elections is way toooo much!!! i hope hariri and jumblat rule lebanon and take it down the sewers...this is what the lebanese deserve... i hope u never get kahraba, not even 5/7, hope oil prices keep increasing so you can't pay benzine and food prices force you to eat a khiara every day, l man2ooshi will be 2000 wil taxi bi 3000, dirt and waste will flote their way to Oceana, edde sands, la guava etc...hope u get out of the beach with a used nappy stuck to your feet!!!! how are you going to find jobs for 1000s of lebanese going back "home"????? not even sukleen has vacancies!!! (it's nt like they cleaned much anyway...)....yalla baseeta ya shabeb....shiddo l himmi...3al 2aleel zamatna min wilayat l faqeeh wil General...u'll always have l batrak supporting the poor and hariri rebuilding DT, stealing here and there and then building a couple of nice towers la 2ilo with state money...wil balad meshe...

5eir inshallah...

Why should politicians care to reveal that they lied to the people, ma l hay2a they will have perpetual control on Lebanon, kamen they know that the same people will vote for them.

[Robin Hood]

Originally Posted by nuknuk

Then stop dying to get in the government with them. If that's what's going to happen, be a real opposition in Parliament, and people will punish them by voting for you in 4 years.

This would work in a Western country but not in Lebanon.

[Robin Hood]

Originally Posted by ecce homo

Don't call them traitors, call them naive, incompetent, does not understand politics etc… starting with the big 3 Sfeir, Geagea abd Gemayel because the rest are a bunch of opportunist and wannabees. They are then one who owes GMA a political apology. Hopefully their supporters will wake up some day.

If GMA has to focus on someone from now on it’s on those three not on the FM or PSP:
- The patriarch and the clergy – should stay out of politics for good
- The LF of Geagea – what to say about delusional leader who cannot put forward a political strategy. He thinks that he can reach his ultimate goal while Hariri and Jumblat are making fun of him.
- The Kataeb – Gemayels party really needs to get out of their sectarian mindset, its blurring its vision and they have no political future whatsoever.

It's sad but more and more Christians (no offense) are becoming jens 3atel.

[Placebo]

Originally Posted by Ataraxia

Ok Bravo. So Walid Jumblat is "smart" but he doesn't work according to principles or morals. Is that what you want us to tell you ?

tfehh.

yes that's what we want to tell you.
In politics, you should be cunning and smart, you should be machiavellic. you dont show all your cards at once.

For me, We should have waited for after this election not only to open a new page with syria, but also to do the MOU. we should have stayed all this time what we were intended to be. THE ALTERNATIVE for the current political establishments.

What we did is that we almost became like the rest of the bunch.

[Robin Hood]

Originally Posted by loubnaniTO

AND.. they are proving day after day how much they understand how to fool the average people, that's why the keep succeeding.
- in 2005, Hariri and Jumbi allied with HA to GAIN VOTES and win the elections, and they won... only to back stab HA the following day.
- in 2009, Hariri and Jumbi attacked HA, Syria, Iran and GA harshly, talking about wilayat el faqih and the danger of Syria and HA weapons to gain more support, and they succeeded... only to go back and Jumbi apologizes to Assad, and Hariri protects the HA arms (again the following day).

They knew how to play the political game both times, result? they won both elections, and they're ruling.
FPM? principles, honesty, bla bla bla... failed to get the majority, both times.

They will use another scare tactic in 2013 to fool people and will win again.

[Robin Hood]

Originally Posted by Ataraxia

Ok Bravo. So Walid Jumblat is "smart" but he doesn't work according to principles or morals. Is that what you want us to tell you ?

tfehh.

When you fight the Mafia, you have to be like the Mafia.