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I think this is a good thing. I dont agree that a party that represents say 20%of the uni should not be represented. When is the election?
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the election is on Nov 3
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For those claiming that this would give the loyalists arguments that they represent half the university, I think that your misconception of University Elections is dangerous.

When you are elected to a council your job is to WORK for the students and NOT to claim that you represent them.

A proportional system will give us a Students' Council that looks a little bit like the government. Representatives from all sides working for the benefit of their voters.

Now, this will push the elected students to overdo, it will push them to work much harder in order to accomplish more than the others will be.

Whether we like it or not, it is in our human nature that without competition we become lazy, so the extra competition INSIDE the Council is a good thing knowing that most student representatives have almost the same program and you know **** well that people DO NOT vote for programs since they're too politicized and there isn't much difference between the 2.

So, the students will vote to their friends, they will vote with or against the LF, with or against Hezbollah's weapons, etc etc
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For those claiming that this would give the loyalists arguments that they represent half the university, I think that your misconception of University Elections is dangerous.

When you are elected to a council your job is to WORK for the students and NOT to claim that you represent them.

A proportional system will give us a Students' Council that looks a little bit like the government. Representatives from all sides working for the benefit of their voters.

Now, this will push the elected students to overdo, it will push them to work much harder in order to accomplish more than the others will be.

Whether we like it or not, it is in our human nature that without competition we become lazy, so the extra competition INSIDE the Council is a good thing knowing that most student representatives have almost the same program and you know **** well that people DO NOT vote for programs since they're too politicized and there isn't much difference between the 2.

So, the students will vote to their friends, they will vote with or against the LF, with or against Hezbollah's weapons, etc etc
From what I understood and correct me if I am wrong, this was done so that all PARTIES would be represented. So this is actually encouraging the political parties divisions inside the university, and rendering the elections a political one (I know asslan it was but it is reinforcing it) instead of making something to further it from the political ajwek.
I mean what do HA weapons have anything to do with a student council and what those students can offer for the university?
I think for elections to be really apolitical, universities should ban parties from running, just individuals without any political umbrella. Even if a guy is FPM, he would tun udner his name and not under FPM tag. This will lessen the tensions and will make students vote for individuals rather than opposition or loyalists or FPM or LF or FM...
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As many have said before, this law is good only if all the universities adopt it! If not, then like someone already said, it's like applicating proportional from Jbeil To Baabda and leaving the rest of Lebanon with a Majority-Law...

There should be some kind of reunion between universities to decide whether everyone adopts a majority, or a proportional law...
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From what I understood and correct me if I am wrong, this was done so that all PARTIES would be represented. So this is actually encouraging the political parties divisions inside the university, and rendering the elections a political one (I know asslan it was but it is reinforcing it) instead of making something to further it from the political ajwek.
I mean what do HA weapons have anything to do with a student council and what those students can offer for the university?
I think for elections to be really apolitical, universities should ban parties from running, just individuals without any political umbrella. Even if a guy is FPM, he would tun udner his name and not under FPM tag. This will lessen the tensions and will make students vote for individuals rather than opposition or loyalists or FPM or LF or FM...

I was told that the LF were banned In LAU from any political activity, is that true?
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I was told that the LF were banned In LAU from any political activity, is that true?
Yes it's true, but then again, so were FPM.
Because the LSF and Social don't exist officially in the university.
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From what I understood and correct me if I am wrong, this was done so that all PARTIES would be represented. So this is actually encouraging the political parties divisions inside the university, and rendering the elections a political one (I know asslan it was but it is reinforcing it) instead of making something to further it from the political ajwek.
I mean what do HA weapons have anything to do with a student council and what those students can offer for the university?
I think for elections to be really apolitical, universities should ban parties from running, just individuals without any political umbrella. Even if a guy is FPM, he would tun udner his name and not under FPM tag. This will lessen the tensions and will make students vote for individuals rather than opposition or loyalists or FPM or LF or FM...
i fully agree with the red part ! enough is enough we are poisoning our new generation with crazy hateful political stuff , let them study and blossom in a healthy atmosphere let them compete on a non political basis .
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From what I understood and correct me if I am wrong, this was done so that all PARTIES would be represented. So this is actually encouraging the political parties divisions inside the university, and rendering the elections a political one (I know asslan it was but it is reinforcing it) instead of making something to further it from the political ajwek.
I mean what do HA weapons have anything to do with a student council and what those students can offer for the university?
I think for elections to be really apolitical, universities should ban parties from running, just individuals without any political umbrella. Even if a guy is FPM, he would tun udner his name and not under FPM tag. This will lessen the tensions and will make students vote for individuals rather than opposition or loyalists or FPM or LF or FM...
i disagree with you, i think there should be two or three parties or sides running, such as opposition and loyalists, left and right, something like that.

these parties should select thier representatives properly in order to encourage students to vote for them, and do not select opportunistic representatives.these parties should work harder on raising the awarness of the students not to be dragged towards money and hatred/fair becuase they ignore the "OTHER"

students needs to start conducting self control while they are still young, else how do you think you will be creating a society which can accept the different parties, religions, and culture we have.

it might be idealistic, but i believe that someone needs to start working like that, and i hope that this someone to be FPM and its allies.

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Correct political education instead of prohibiting it. It cannot be prohibited.
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