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Leb_Rebel

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Originally Posted by The Jade

I think it's a good move by USJ to adopt proportional representation.

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Les amicales d’étudiants à l’USJ seront élues suivant un mode de scrutin proportionnel

17/10/2009

VIE UNIVERSITAIRE Une mission d'accréditation française a décrit l'USJ comme « un établissement d'enseignement supérieur de très grande qualité ». Les amicales d'étudiants y seront élues le 3 novembre selon un mode de scrutin proportionnel.

Les prochaines élections d'amicales à l'USJ, le 3 novembre, se feront suivant un mode de scrutin proportionnel, a annoncé hier le vice-recteur aux affaires académiques de l'université, Henri Awit.

L'annonce de cette initiative pionnière a éclipsé tous les autres détails d'une conférence de presse consacrée hier à l'accréditation internationale de l'Université Saint-Joseph par un organisme français spécialisé, l'Agence d'évaluation de la recherche et de l'enseignement supérieur (Aeres), dont le président, Jean-François Dhainaut, a rendu compte de la mission de certification effectuée en début d'année à l'USJ.

M. Awit a noté que le clivage politique dans le pays se retrouve au sein du corps estudiantin (évalué cette année à environ 11 000 étudiants) et que dans les douze facultés et la vingtaine d'instituts d'enseignement supérieur de l'université, les deux camps en présence sont sensiblement de force égale, avec de légers avantages de l'ordre de 3 à 4 %, selon les facultés, à tel ou tel camp.

« Il s'ensuit, a-t-il poursuivi, qu'aux élections, si le mode de scrutin est majoritaire, avec un avantage de 1 %, un camp peut en éliminer un autre et s'installer confortablement à la tête d'une amicale pour un an. »

Et de souligner que l'objectif de l'USJ était d'assurer la représentation la plus fidèle possible du corps estudiantin au sein des amicales. « Que cet exemple soit un modèle de conduite citoyenne, de coopération et de démocratie n'est pas non plus à dédaigner », a-t-il ajouté en substance.
Du reste, a conclu M. Awit sur cette question, ce n'est un secret pour personne que même sur le plan national, les responsables souhaitent trouver un mode de scrutin plus représentatif de la société libanaise que le scrutin majoritaire.

It might be a test to see how it will look on a bigger scale.

What do you think ?

I don't understand.
Isn't the law supposed to help student representation based on achievements and programs not on political backgrounds???
Is he trying to make it fair for POLITICAL parties inside UNIVERSITY???
And who told him the situation will the same later??? Every time the political atmosphere will change , they will introduce a law "3al 2yess"

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against the law per say, but the explanation he gave...well its just wrong

johnnyFPM

I agrre, justifiying the law to please political parties is wrong. I wished they did a law that put politics aside and really benifited students and student agendas.

But I also agree that this will give us an idea about proportionality in Lebanon.

aboulzouz

Well I can tell you that in France in many universties I worked in the proportionality has been the only law for students and faculty representation.
It is very often a very strong political battle between rightist and leftist.

So if USJ is the pioneer in reducing the political tension in the students representation election i can only see it as a positive step.

roch10452

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Originally Posted by johnnyFPM

I agrre, justifiying the law to please political parties is wrong. I wished they did a law that put politics aside and really benifited students and student agendas.

But I also agree that this will give us an idea about proportionality in Lebanon.

such a law is probably established to prevent certain parties from feeling unrepresented while they actually do represent a big minority
everytime where such minorities become huge, if they are not represented, things can lead to fightings and problems

aboulzouz

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Originally Posted by roch10452

such a law is probably established to prevent certain parties from feeling unrepresented while they actually do represent a big minority
everytime where such minorities become huge, if they are not represented, things can lead to fightings and problems

Let me formulate it the other way: it basically allows EVERYBODY to get represented in the council and take part in student/faculty related decisions

dodzi

Very good move. However, inefficient if not all Universities adopt the same law.

It is the same as using a proportional law from Keserwen to Baabda, but keep the majority law everywhere else!

hannaalsayssa

it should benefit us in the long run

since 14shbatt wont be interesed in spending money on bribes like before, knowing all well that no matter what we shall have a voice in the student council.

the next logical step is for all universities to adopt it.

freelebanonn

well i studied at usj huvelin for 4 years and i can tell u that this law will benefit the loyalists way more then it will benefit fpm.we are known, to be the strongest party in this university however its impossible to win a faculty by huge numbers as the other parties do exist and in big numbers also.so in a majority system we used to sweep it. now they will take a lot of seats and claim to represent half the uni.while in other universities the law will stay the same and they will end up winning over us.

oscard

i hope that the FPM students are preparing for this battle, i think it will not be easy and people are expecting from them a lot

and i hope that they will not do the same mistake FPM does always; they always take for granted that FPM will win by a big difference just for the sake of the black eyes of GMA, that is if he has black eyes :)

cheers

Leb_Rebel

I don't anticipate good news from USJ this year.
If they reached the point of changing the law....other "irregularities" will occur from now till the elections.