The USA has clearly admitted their involvement in our internal affairs and especially the elections

[Observer]

اللعب على المكشوف من زمان و جماعة 14 شباط لا يستحون ان يصرحوا انهم من ازلام امريكا وينفذون سياساتها مهما كانت. فلا ادري لماذا هذه الهيصة اليوم من ان امريكا تدعم 14 شباط. هم لا يأبهون بل يفتخرون من بانهم جماعة امريكا ويقولون لك اذا ما اعجبك اذهب الى ايران بدل امريكا و يخيرونك بين حضارة امريكا و حضارة ايران. فلم العجب ؟.

[FBM]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

I think DA is right, i thought you are only missing an important detail, i forgot about common sense.
She clearly said, they are helping the leadership of the current government because they are afraid that hezbolla would win the elections, hello?!?!?! ding ding, where is that bell?!? why did she say current and why did she say because they are afraid that hezbolla wins??
She could have said we love lebanon so whoever wins we will keep helping the next government as much as we help the current government.
Really guys you are either taking us for stupids or you are stupid, she clearly said it, is it so hard to read?
I am not telling you to read between the line, I am telling you to read what she said!

So what isnt Iran doing the same thing ?

[Learned]

From a Pentagon Press Release:

“Behind it is all basics – 12 million rounds of ammo, spare helicopter parts, shoulder-fired rockets,” Straub said. “We want them to play their role in controlling Lebanese territory. We also want them to deter the terrorist threat.”

“We don’t have a conversation on these matters without considering the concerns of Israel and Israel’s qualitative military edge,” he said. “That’s a U.S. commitment that we take very seriously.” For example, the Lebanese army M-60 tanks are no match for Israel’s Mekava 4 main battle tanks.

DefenseLink News Article: U.S. Forces Help Lebanese Military Assert Control

[Dark Angel]

Originally Posted by FBM

Reread the last part of my post Wala u'd like it :)




The 2006 war was not against the army rather it was against Hizballah, the army got attacked several times during the war, yet the army did not respond if it did however, then the US might have helped the army

In 2007 the US did help the lebanese army... dunno what ur saying....

[JD06]

hezballah is staying armed till the lebanese army can protect lebanon, full stop.
clinton is no smarter thn rice, thy cant do anything about hezballah, the British are starting talks and in a while so will the americans, husni is a dictator and once the eygptians grow some balls thy will get rid of him.
whats all ths talk about u.s aid? go back in time to the nahr el barid war and listen to what micheal sluiman(was ka2id jaysh at tht time) said, it goes alittle somin like this: the americans didnt send us anything usefull, the only usefull weapons and bullets came from SYRIA!..yala ya 3ameed start thanking syria for its aid to the lebanese army.
also dont forgt how many times the americans have stopped deals between lebanon and other european countries tht wanted to help the lebanese army by giving us real weapons(the belgium deal comes to mind first, but thyr are others), not **** tht the u.s army no longer wants.

[JD06]

Originally Posted by FBM

Mods excuse the use of latin arabic (im a fan of saeed Akl)

Shou ili atyab min il 3asal? Il khal bi balesh!

Guys if the US is giving the army weapons why are u getting pissed abt it? Is it because Iran is not helping the army? Is it beacause Hizballah will no longer be the only one "protecting" lebanon?

man what r u going to be protecting lebanon with? a 1960s hummer?
ok we will tell thm thank u for giving us thry shitty trucks but lets not get carried away and say the u.s are giving us weapons tht we can defend ourselves with against israel. i know you dont like hezballah but dont let ur hate make u talk b.s

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by FBM

So what isnt Iran doing the same thing ?

am i saying that iran is helping the current or ervery cabinet? you are saying that US is helping every cabinet while Clinton is saying she is helping only the leadership of this one that's what we are discussing here not Iran, but since you answered about Iran then you are implicitly agreeing with my posts because instead of starting the futile defense again you started drifting off the subject...
I think you know that anyway but you think you can play the intelligent on us sometimes i am not sure if you are stupid or you are taking us for stupid.

[taifoon]

Originally Posted by FBM

The 2006 war was not against the army rather it was against Hizballah, the army got attacked several times during the war, yet the army did not respond if it did however, then the US might have helped the army

Delirium, with no offense meant FBM.

In 2007 the US did help the lebanese army... dunno what ur saying....

Look at it this way:

US helps Bandar help Sa3douddin help Bahiya help Shaker help himself.. And then US helps the army with kamm khartoushe to exterminate Shaker, after losing some 160 men. Do the algebra.

The only genuine help US can offer Lebanon is to ask Israel return still occupied lands, stay out of our skies, waters and lands thus offering us the needed requirements and incitements to start, in our turn, to reconsider peaceful talks with the israelis.

ok, i'll give it to you straight: If US does indeed want to help you, and this so called cabinet, it would do its utmost to disarm Hizbullah from its main reason to exist, namely the overhanging Israeli threat (including occupation, territorial breaches etc..). When this happens, the Lebanese people in general, including parts of Hizbullah's own base, will have reasons to start questioning Hizbullah's armed status. Till then, good luck with trusting the wolf with your neefas.

[FBM]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

am i saying that iran is helping the current or ervery cabinet? you are saying that US is helping every cabinet while Clinton is saying she is helping only the leadership of this one that's what we are discussing here not Iran, but since you answered about Iran then you are implicitly agreeing with my posts because instead of starting the futile defense again you started drifting off the subject...
I think you know that anyway but you think you can play the intelligent on us sometimes i am not sure if you are stupid or you are taking us for stupid.

this is from the NY times article you posted " even a narrow win by Hezbollah and its allies, now in the parliamentary opposition, would be seen as a victory for Iran "

now why would it be a victory for iran ?

what i meant by "iran is doing the same thing" is that iran is also backing the opposition to win in the elections just like the US...

Are you guys forgeting that Feltman promised Sanyoura shibaa farms as a gift to sanyoura a couple of months ago ?

[Anny]

Originally Posted by FBM

this is from the NY times article you posted " even a narrow win by Hezbollah and its allies, now in the parliamentary opposition, would be seen as a victory for Iran "

now why would it be a victory for iran ?

what i meant by "iran is doing the same thing" is that iran is also backing the opposition to win in the elections just like the US...

Do you have any proves ?

Can you please find an article that says that from an Iranien Leader?

Plus, for all people information, I wrote a comment in NowLebanon website and suddently they didnt put it plus they changed a little bit the article that they posted before...

Those Kataeb are so corrupted, where is the transpancy. If they dont like your oppinion, they dont posted on their website and they call that they are so truthful and blablabla. But they show the exact opposite.