The USA has clearly admitted their involvement in our internal affairs and especially the elections

[Danny Z]

3ameed and FBM

You are missing an important detail here, Clinton clearly said:
"the election was important for enhancing the leadership of the current cabinet"
The financing is not because they want to help Lebanon as a country or its army, it is clearly about the current cabinet, because it is against Hezbolla.
While they clearly say they are afraid of Hezbolla winning the elections, what's wrong if Hezbolla wins democratic elections, aren't the US all about democracy and let the people decide so if people decided hezbolla should win the election what's the big fuss? And as she bluntly put it, because they are afraid of the democratic choice of the people they are helping the current cabinet, so yes it is clear and blunt they are helping this government because hezbolla might win the elections.
So what are you both discussing here? that's what she said.

[Dark Angel]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

3ameed and FBM

You are missing an important detail here, Clinton clearly said:
"the election was important for enhancing the leadership of the current cabinet"
The financing is not because they want to help Lebanon as a country or its army, it is clearly about the current cabinet, because it is against Hezbolla.
While they clearly say they are afraid of Hezbolla winning the elections, what's wrong if Hezbolla wins democratic elections, aren't the US all about democracy and let the people decide so if people decided hezbolla should win the election what's the big fuss? And as she bluntly put it, because they are afraid of the democratic choice of the people they are helping the current cabinet, so yes it is clear and blunt they are helping this government because hezbolla might win the elections.
So what are you both discussing here? that's what she said.

lol right, that's all they are missing :)

[FBM]

Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_LF

Not true! If we had a strong army, HA's existence would no longer be justified.

Reread the last part of my post Wala u'd like it :)

Originally Posted by Anny

No the USA dont want a strong army because if it did, why not help the army in 2006 to fight Israel planes in Lebanon and why not helping the Lebanese army in 2007 during the fight with Fateh el Islam. What are u expecting from a country who created al-qaida and turns against it?

The 2006 war was not against the army rather it was against Hizballah, the army got attacked several times during the war, yet the army did not respond if it did however, then the US might have helped the army

In 2007 the US did help the lebanese army... dunno what ur saying....

[Learned]

Originally Posted by FBM

America wants a strong army, right? So whats wrong if they help us get a strong army?!?!? Is it because then HA will have no real excuse for its weapons?

US officials have stated many times that their primary consideration in providing any type of aid to the Lebanese army is that Israel maintains an uncontested qualitative advantage over anything that we receive. They have even gone so far as to justify their actions to the Israelis by providing unfettered and specific explanations as to how, for example, an M-60 tank wouldn't stand a chance against a Merkava, or how numerous Israeli SAM systems and air defense weapons could easily pluck Lebanese UAVs and helicopters out of the sky.

In fact, the US has explicitly stated that the type of aid they provide the Lebanese army is not meant to strengthen its conventional warfare capability, but to equip the Lebanese army to fight "terrorists" in Lebanon, and of course, by that the US means they want the Lebanese army to fight Hezbollah, since we know that the US doesn't give a rat's *** about anything in Lebanon that isn't in Israel's direct strategic interests.

So don't sell us this sorry BS, because even the US isn't trying to sell it. They have stated their intentions loud and clear. They don't want a strong Lebanese army that can protect the country against Israel, in order for Hezbollah to have no more "excuse" as you say. They want to drag the Lebanese army and Hezbollah into an internal conflict, and plunge Lebanon back into a civil war.

Anyone with an ounce of integrity would view America's brazen interference as a threat to our national security.

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by Dark Angel

lol right, that's all they are missing :)

The devil is always in the details...hehe.

[FBM]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

3ameed and FBM

You are missing an important detail here, Clinton clearly said:
"the election was important for enhancing the leadership of the current cabinet"The financing is not because they want to help Lebanon as a country or its army, it is clearly about the current cabinet, because it is against Hezbolla.
While they clearly say they are afraid of Hezbolla winning the elections, what's wrong if Hezbolla wins democratic elections, aren't the US all about democracy and let the people decide so if people decided hezbolla should win the election what's the big fuss? And as she bluntly put it, because they are afraid of the democratic choice of the people they are helping the current cabinet, so yes it is clear and blunt they are helping this government because hezbolla might win the elections.
So what are you both discussing here? that's what she said.

WTF The current cabint is against HA ?!?!?!?!?!?? Please guys what are you smoking! Can i have some? THE CABINET is not against HA, HA is part of the cabinet... Cabinet means majlis wouzara, il houkoumi, haydi ma gheyra houkmit wihde il watanie!

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by FBM

WTF The current cabint is against HA ?!?!?!?!?!?? Please guys what are you smoking! Can i have some? THE CABINET is not against HA, HA is part of the cabinet... Cabinet means majlis wouzara, il houkoumi, haydi ma gheyra houkmit wihde il watanie!

"the leadership of the current cabinet"

I put it in big blue fonts,so that your brain could be more receptive.

[FBM]

Mods excuse the use of latin arabic (im a fan of saeed Akl)

Shou ili atyab min il 3asal? Il khal bi balesh!

Guys if the US is giving the army weapons why are u getting pissed abt it? Is it because Iran is not helping the army? Is it beacause Hizballah will no longer be the only one "protecting" lebanon?

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by FBM

WTF The current cabint is against HA ?!?!?!?!?!?? Please guys what are you smoking! Can i have some? THE CABINET is not against HA, HA is part of the cabinet... Cabinet means majlis wouzara, il houkoumi, haydi ma gheyra houkmit wihde il watanie!

I think DA is right, i thought you are only missing an important detail, i forgot about common sense.
She clearly said, they are helping the leadership of the current government because they are afraid that hezbolla would win the elections, hello?!?!?! ding ding, where is that bell?!? why did she say current and why did she say because they are afraid that hezbolla wins??
She could have said we love lebanon so whoever wins we will keep helping the next government as much as we help the current government.
Really guys you are either taking us for stupids or you are stupid, she clearly said it, is it so hard to read?
I am not telling you to read between the lines, I am telling you to read what she said!

[FBM]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

"the leadership of the current cabinet"

I put it in big blue fonts,so that your brain could be more receptive.

Originally Posted by Danny Z

3ameed and FBM

You are missing an important detail here, Clinton clearly said:
"the election was important for enhancing the leadership of the current cabinet"
The financing is not because they want to help Lebanon as a country or its army, it is clearly about the current cabinet, because it is against Hezbolla.
While they clearly say they are afraid of Hezbolla winning the elections, what's wrong if Hezbolla wins democratic elections, aren't the US all about democracy and let the people decide so if people decided hezbolla should win the election what's the big fuss? And as she bluntly put it, because they are afraid of the democratic choice of the people they are helping the current cabinet, so yes it is clear and blunt they are helping this government because hezbolla might win the elections.
So what are you both discussing here? that's what she said.

I put it in orange maybe youll see it this time around ? Beside... Abu Jamra is also part of the cabinet leadership is he not?