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I talked with my cousin today about NDU's election he is a senior he told me it will be the same as last year! well he's an Lfer so I wasn't surprised! Hopefully FPMers are working enough la2an bade wazeklo bas nerba7 LOL!! :P
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I talked with my cousin today about NDU's election he is a senior he told me it will be the same as last year! well he's an Lfer so I wasn't surprised! Hopefully FPMers are working enough la2an bade wazeklo bas nerba7 LOL!! :P
To those of you (Jade, DI, etc..) who were seeking answers about the noble motives behind those programless-useless-stupid-elections. Here's a small sample from the answers we still haven't managed to get in this thread..kella ossit te2ri2 a la WJ & Samir
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To those of you (Jade, DI, etc..) who were seeking answers about the noble motives behind those programless-useless-stupid-elections. Here's a small sample from the answers we still haven't managed to get in this thread..kella ossit te2ri2 a la WJ & Samir
wlek I was kidding about the "7are2so" story! read my previous posts I'm against these kind of elections aslan!!
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Well... To some people who got angry at my replies:

Some of the information mentioned were just "cliches" being repeated and not very accurate when it comes to reality.

There's nothing like a "mere fact" at AUB, that FPM cannot work on and change.

All this rhetoric about sunnis, druze, palestinians, jordanians, scholarships and all that is too much of a "la22 7akeh chmel yamin 3al tofcheneh", and it's a rhetoric most activists learned from their student leaderships who were busy on the beaches in summer and following on their nightlife business in winter, and at the end of the day had to report to GMA and all what they had to say is that rhetoric that they kept repeating until they believed it themselves.

Some of the ones who replied to me aggressively without understanding my aggressivity do not know that sunnis, druze, palestinians, jordanians, SAUDIS, scholarships and all nationalities and races and sects and I don't know what existed at AUB since before 1900 and many times FPM managed to govern the scene! When FPMers learn how to stop treating people according to their sects or nationalities but rather according to the one fact that they are all AUB students with equal rights and duties and similar human brains, then this factor would become again a factor of strength for FPM like it always used to be since early 90s! Go review the history of your movement in every year and with every faction and you will find millions of surprises!

What happened since 2005 is not a change in facts on ground, but a **** dangerous change in FPMers mentality!

Before lecturing me on what to say or what to reveal or what to explain, take a deeper look on what FPM has become around you and go by yourself (like I do) and look at how student leaderships and political leaderships in FPM are forging the new activists!

W khlosna ba2a!

N.B.: Do you want me to name the many "brilliant" FPM activists that also profit from the scholarships that you mentioned and yet still managed to mark our history at AUB with glorious results?
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What is the reason behind FM's rise??
FPM's illusions and stupid rhetorics in the media!
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Well... To some people who got angry at my replies:

Some of the information mentioned were just "cliches" being repeated and not very accurate when it comes to reality.

There's nothing like a "mere fact" at AUB, that FPM cannot work on and change.

All this rhetoric about sunnis, druze, palestinians, jordanians, scholarships and all that is too much of a "la22 7akeh chmel yamin 3al tofcheneh", and it's a rhetoric most activists learned from their student leaderships who were busy on the beaches in summer and following on their nightlife business in winter, and at the end of the day had to report to GMA and all what they had to say is that rhetoric that they kept repeating until they believed it themselves.

Some of the ones who replied to me aggressively without understanding my aggressivity do not know that sunnis, druze, palestinians, jordanians, SAUDIS, scholarships and all nationalities and races and sects and I don't know what existed at AUB since before 1900 and many times FPM managed to govern the scene! When FPMers learn how to stop treating people according to their sects or nationalities but rather according to the one fact that they are all AUB students with equal rights and duties and similar human brains, then this factor would become again a factor of strength for FPM like it always used to be since early 90s! Go review the history of your movement in every year and with every faction and you will find millions of surprises!

What happened since 2005 is not a change in facts on ground, but a **** dangerous change in FPMers mentality!

Before lecturing me on what to say or what to reveal or what to explain, take a deeper look on what FPM has become around you and go by yourself (like I do) and look at how student leaderships and political leaderships in FPM are forging the new activists!

W khlosna ba2a!

N.B.: Do you want me to name the many "brilliant" FPM activists that also profit from the scholarships that you mentioned and yet still managed to mark our history at AUB with glorious results?
Ok ok we got that !

But we're still waiting for some answers for these questions: Universities elections 2009/2010
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To those of you (Jade, DI, etc..) who were seeking answers about the noble motives behind those programless-useless-stupid-elections. Here's a small sample from the answers we still haven't managed to get in this thread..kella ossit te2ri2 a la WJ & Samir
Booyakasha there is also a more important reason. You forgot that elected members have easier way to approach young beautiful girls. Don't forget that they will be organizing parties and have considerable powers and responsibilities!

For instance me, in douzième jaune, when the teacher asks me to chouf min 3am ye7ke I don't give the names of some cute girls. And then all these beauties shall invite me to their anniversaire at Juicy Burger Jal el dib on saturdays between 4 and 6 p.m...
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Why do you need money for a students' election ?
What are you gonna spend it on ?
Beyond basic stuff such as poster printing, minimum decoration of stands, printing of platforms and marketing items, nothing much is needed.
Akid the more you have the better but a sincere electoral campaign can work without money.
Once people start asking for money it means they have a lack of devotion that they need to compensate.

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1) What are your detailed programs or should we just vote because you're wearing orange or bear a cross ?
It's not about programs. Most activists still lack knowledge in the essence of their activism and the "raison d'etre" of their party.
A whole complete vision needs to be developed in each activist, where the program of work would become very easy to develop and follow whether in universities or anywhere else...

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2) What did you achieve of your programs ?
I can answer about what I witnessed during my 5 years at AUB.
Believe me we did miracles.
It's absolutely impossible to compile all the achievements as we never recorded them as party achievements but rather as sincere representatives ones.
Most of the times where we won the majority in a certain council, we finalized all the points in the program, of course except the ones that were categorically refused by the administration.

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3) What is the program of the opposing team ?
Should we answer that?

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4) Why do you fight for students' rights under a political cover ?
Let them fight sincerely for students' rights and sit under whatever cover they wish...

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5) Would a pro-opposition SRC be better for the country than a pro-majority one ?
It's something to study case by case... unfortunately. The answer is yes in some cases and definitely no in other ones.

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6) Would Hezbollah lay down his weapons if we elected a certain political side ? Would we know the truth about Hariri ? Would there be less corruption?
It's a matter of influence. It doesn't have to anyway...

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7) You as student representatives, what have you got to offer to the students that the others can't ?
As much as prerogatives allow I guess, depending on each university. Anyway it's a good question that I always use to prove that SRCs are just a detail in our work as FPM in universities.

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8) Are the rights of the students in NDU different than the ones in AUB ?
Not necessarely. And elections and representations are not just about rights as much as they are about living one's political and social vision.

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The student body is supposed to be the strongest in any country, when it becomes politicized, its power of pressuring the government becomes nil, because each side wants to brag about its win, and that's all the politicians care about, and unfortunately, the educated students fall in this trap, again and again.
True... But generalization is not accurate.
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Some of the ones who replied to me aggressively without understanding my aggressivity do not know that sunnis, druze, palestinians, jordanians, SAUDIS, scholarships and all nationalities and races and sects and I don't know what existed at AUB since before 1900 and many times FPM managed to govern the scene!
well... there is nothing funny more than the last statement... hahaha

I'm wondering if GMA's parents were married at that time or they just didn't know each other.... any way in 1900 GMA's Grandpa was in USA...

Yet... FPM managed to overcome all the hardships of WWI and WWII and Civil War... HAHAHAHA عنزة ولو طارت

Be careful, don't underestimate your dialogist... respect our intelligence man..

If you want to talk about real elections you must start dating from the last tsunami struck Lebanon in '05... got it
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lebanese society was always based on sects

and this division goes all teh way to schools.
and asshown in 09 , people will vote 90% for sects.
except for the christians were there is more leeway.

anyone who wants to run and WIN university electiosn or any election MUST CONSIDER THESE FACTS,
if not they are just day dreaming and not serious about winning.
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