Universities elections 2009/2010

[Venom]

Is going to be as every year in AUB where everyone turns out to be a winner?

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by Cyclops

in addition to the Arab presence mostly Jordanians and Palestinians (not Hamas of course) and they give their votes blindly to 14 March....

it's a shame that Hamas isn't represented because they would have supported the opposition.

anyone knows who fath el islam will vote for?

[Leb_Rebel]

Originally Posted by hiptanaka

word.

I have nothing against the Druze, and many of my close friends / old classmates were Druze, but I can tell you for a fact that they make up a good 15-20% of the AUB student population. That and they only managed a marginal win over the opposition in last year's election.

15-20% is a very inflated figure.
I think its more close to 8-10. Which is enough to tip the balance on every seat.

[The Jade]

Originally Posted by The Jade

Why do you need money for a students' election ?
What are you gonna spend it on ?



Joseph, student elections in their essence are crucial, but the way its done in Lebanon is laughable at best.

And here are some questions I would like to ask to the students working under a party's umbrella:

1) What are your detailed programs or should we just vote because you're wearing orange or bear a cross ?
2) What did you achieve of your programs ?
3) What is the program of the opposing team ?
4) Why do you fight for students' rights under a political cover ?
5) Would a pro-opposition SRC be better for the country than a pro-majority one ?
6) Would Hezbollah lay down his weapons if we elected a certain political side ? Would we know the truth about Hariri ? Would there be less corruption ?
7) You as student representatives, what have you got to offer to the students that the others can't ?


8) Are the rights of the students in NDU different than the ones in AUB ?


The student body is supposed to be the strongest in any country, when it becomes politicized, its power of pressuring the government becomes nil, because each side wants to brag about its win, and that's all the politicians care about, and unfortunately, the educated students fall in this trap, again and again.

Anyone here who could answer ?

[Booyakasha]

Originally Posted by The Jade

Anyone here who could answer ?

Apart from Aboulzouz's answer no one seems to be able to provide one.

What's frightening is that they're fighting for a flawed cause. Instead of focusing on the attractiveness of FPM especially for the youth (Cf. recent thread about this matter), they work for a month or so ahead of the elections to attract voters and all the excitement stops afterward.

I hope the excited padawans will think about not getting dragged into useless battles just because the 'tradition' is to participate in those elections.

In case you don't agree please do enlighten us with the reasons driving these elections.

[sev]

Originally Posted by Venom

Is going to be as every year in AUB where everyone turns out to be a winner?

Every year fpm wins aub, just the teachers tip the balance to the other side.This is the answer I get from many fpmers I asked in AUB.

[Leb_Rebel]

Originally Posted by sev

Every year fpm wins aub, just the teachers tip the balance to the other side.This is the answer I get from many fpmers I asked in AUB.

It's not EVERY year, but it has happened more than once in the past 4 years.

[Cyclops]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

it's a shame that Hamas isn't represented because they would have supported the opposition.

anyone knows who fath el islam will vote for?

Khalas man...It's just a joke ..

But fateh-el-islam will boycott the elections definitely! well they have their valid reasons! voters in Romyeh ;)

Regarding the money.. any election needs money! dahh.. This is the way it always was since the last tsunami struck Lebanon in 2005.. the shock raised the need to face the tsunami in every syndicate and in every university by riyals and dollars.. bucks and dimes... got it.. elections in June '09 is the ultimate example..

though..

we must fight back... money is a good mean..

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Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin' how funky and strong is your fight
It doesn't matter who's wrong or right
Just beat it, beat it

They're out to get you, better leave while you can
Don't wanna be a boy, you wanna be a man
You wanna stay alive, better do what you can
So beat it, just beat it
KoP.....MJ

[Comrade Bassam]

Originally Posted by December Rain

i agree on what CB said, FPM has been the number one electoral power at AUB throughout the 90's and the 2000's, but it's power might not be so obvious because of the sectarian diversity at AUB.....

Absolutely wrong! FPM's obvious strength at AUB rises from AUB's sectarian diversity.

in the last 4 years the Future movement has strongly emerged as an electoral power at AUB, the reason for that (even though i don't like to seem sectarian but we need to state things as they are) is the percentage of sunnis in the university, in addition to all the palestinians and jordanians who vote in their majority with the FM.

1) Palestinians and Jordanians do not vote in their majority to FM.
2) The "percentage of sunnis" thing and FM's rise is not very accurate. Lebanon's cheap journalistic analyses of that kind do not really apply at AUB.

we shouldn't fail to mention the hariri money factor, for example Hariri sponsors a big number of students at the business school which guarantees a landslide victory in this faculty every year for FM, this faculty on its own is 19 seats out of 93 so every year FPM has to take into account that they're starting with a 19-seat deficit in the SRC, and 3-seat deficit out of 17 in the USFC.

FPM can win the OSB elections if it campaigns for it correctly as it once did. But unfortunately AUB FPM's group couldn't risk focusing efforts on it at the expense of other "more guaranteed" faculties.

the battle at AUB is hard

And not only electoral...

[Comrade Bassam]

Originally Posted by Cyclops

AUB has a very strong Christian society..

Fehmen el chabb! Chou hal tosri7 el 3azim hayda! Eben min smalla?

sorry for the sectarian attitude..

Mich ma3zour.

and most of them are FPM... It's true that they are very active... nevertheless, FM is giving scholarships to many students, Walid Junblat is also giving scholarships (I know some of these students)....

Tla3o men hal 2ossa ba2a!

in addition to the Arab presence mostly Jordanians and Palestinians (not Hamas of course) and they give their votes blindly to 14 March....

False... even though ktir wesi2 men nafsak ya3neh!
Would you mind naming me one of the student coordinators of the Jordanian or Palestinian groups that you know?
Would you mind naming me one encounter about the daily life and the yearly electoral negociations that go between FPM and the Jordanian students and Palestinian students at AUB?
Woudl you mind telling me about your knowledge on how foreign student groups behave at AUB and how the negociations system works?

7ajeh ba2a tle22o 7akeh chmel yamin 3al tofcheneh!