Time limit to form a govt - change?

[joseph_lubnan]

How about term limits for the speaker? let's p/iss everybody off.

[Jean]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

How about term limits for the speaker? let's p/iss everybody off.

There should be time limits for everyone Joseph. It's not good that a political group hijack the country because of a flaw in the constitution.
And for those who are now happy that the PM or the speaker or anyone else can keep the country waiting for his majesty to take a decision, will regret it tomorrow.

[roch10452]

A time limit for what?

all he has to do is make any government, and once its refused, he will be elected again to time counter will go back to zero

[Jean]

Originally Posted by roch10452

A time limit for what?

all he has to do is make any government, and once its refused, he will be elected again to time counter will go back to zero

Maybe the PM-designate should be allowed to be nominated only 2 times for PM. And with a time limit (maybe 1 month), it will be good to run things.
But i'm afraid that Lebanese politicians can find holes in any law just to break it.

[December Rain]

Of course there should be a time limit, this lack of time limit is a lebanese invention. How come when the council of ministers issues a decree the president has 15 days to sign it, if he doesn't then the decree takes effect..... The country can't stay stuck over one man, it doesn't make sense......there should also be a limit for the number of times someone can be assigned to form the government, something like 2 times maximum, this should be an incentive for him to form the government and it would make it hard for foreign powers to stop the government formation..... such constitutional amendments are crucial, in my opinion.

[LiNk]

Originally Posted by TayyaRevolution

I am personally in favour of a time limit. This would limit the amount of damage external forces can do. And a time limit would also take Lebanon out of the regional bargaining game.

It would also be a kick up the backside of internal parties to work together in unison to form a government.

What mechanism are you specifically proposing? What happens when that limit is crossed ?

Without a proper framework your suggestion would never go beyond it's flimsy present nature: Tonzir.

[dodzi]

Time limits are useless.

1- there are no time limits in most developed and democratic countries

2- what happens after the time limit has ended?

3- if it means a new PM must be elected by the Parliament, it most probably will be the same one again

4- in case of 3-, the procedure itself is a waste of time!

5- time limits will be used by parties to pressure the PM designate in his job


In my opinion, such a time limit is useless. The only procedure that could be integrated in the Constitution, is a vote of non-confidence for the PM designate. But I'm sure that if it doesn't exist already, there's a loophole that makes votes of non-confidence applicable to both PM and PM-designate...

[shadow1]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

How about term limits for the speaker? let's p/iss everybody off.

There is: life

As for the PM position, artificial deadlines are not helpful especially as he has to navigate through political minefield with a gun pointed at his head.
If I were a politician and dont like a designated PM, I will insist on nominating my cat or a relative for a position until he gets exasperated and gives up. Others could face the same outcome and the poor president of the republic will need a couple of lifetimes to host his consultations not to mention that sooner or later everyone, save for some all knowledgeable FPMers, runs out of opinions. What do we do then? Recycle our recommendation to satisfy the finite number of qualified rich sunni men for the position?

No deadlines, let the country run in the same inefficient way it always has. It does this best.

[TayyaRevolution]

Good point worth debating:

Originally Posted by Resistancefrom89

The deadlock only emphasises the need to introduce clear milestone linked to timelines with consequences if those timelines are not met.

For example in some countries, if they fail to form a government in 30 days, they go for reelection...so for Saad and the Saudis that means another 750 M$

[Iceberg]

I voted "I don't know" because I sincerely don't think it'll change anything if there's a time limit or not, the Lebanese will always find a gap to exploit .. and on the other side it might be good if and only if the proper formula is found to eliminate such gaps.