Till when will the Future TV rely solely on lies?

[vegojimbo]

Originally Posted by Nasser

All lebanese TV stations are biased , and try to show what they want ... nothing new.
About lies , remember Fate7 El Islam lies , jund l sham , in Beirut Arab University incidents when Manar accused a 'motatawe3 bil is3af' as the area's militia leader , when OTV received guy saying that Sunna are do5ala2 3a lebnen ...... and the list goes on.

Now that's just defending the undefendable.
About the part in red, those are controversial subjects, and hence are not considered lies. Each side has his arguments and proofs, so your comparison doesn't hold water.
As for the part in blue, that's the interviewee's opinion and not OTV's.

Now about FTV, it's been proven without a shadow of a doubt that FTV lied. There's no second interpretation here, so have u something to say about this gross act?... other than making it appear as normal and acceptable by saying the others are doing the same of course.

By the way, being biased is one thing, lying is totally another. The difference is huge, so it's about time ppl put their emotions aside. Maybe, just maybe, the sky above will look a little bit brighter.

[leb-wi-noss]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

This strategy does not work, you can't say answer that LF is bad by saying FPM is as bad, hayde ma ba2a tezbat, people are not stupid, you want to talk about bad you give an example, ma btalle3 jimle min ta7t tarboushak. We gave you an example here you answered with tarboushak, there was another example when aoun asked the lebanese to thank the syrians, remember? and also back then you had tarboushak...
This strategy you are using is also another example of desperation, zaha2touna

Would you guarantee that the posts won't be deleted when giving examples? Would you guarantee that the post won't be considered out of subject?
I totally agree that FTV is a propaganda machine, I won't defend it for a second and they are not professional at all.
But exactly the same applies to OTV. The worse in your case is that Hariri doesn't personally gets involved in this campaign while your leader does. And when the truth is revealed, you blame it on someone else.
You accuse others of bribing people by bringing them to Lebanon to vote. Check in Montreal what SSNP and FPMers doing to take people to vote, do you dare to be objective and mention that on OTV?

So, ma 7ada a7san min 7ada.

[Nasser]

Originally Posted by vegojimbo

Now that's just defending the undefendable.
About the part in red, those are controversial subjects, and hence are not considered lies. Each side has his arguments and proofs, so your comparison doesn't hold water.
As for the part in blue, that's the interviewee's opinion and not OTV's.

Now about FTV, it's been proven without a shadow of a doubt that FTV lied. There's no second interpretation here, so have u something to say about this gross act?... other than making it appear as normal and acceptable by saying the others are doing the same of course.

By the way, being biased is one thing, lying is totally another. The difference is huge, so it's about time ppl put their emotions aside. Maybe, just maybe, the sky above will look a little bit brighter.

Each side have proofs? how so? if there is proof of something , you can't have another proof about its opposite , while still considering the first still as proof. so yes your tv stations tell lies.
About the Beirut Arab University , Manar accused that guy of being militia leader, and when its exposed to public that he is 'moutatawe3 es3af' and was helping people to get out of the line of fire , THEY ADMITTED their lie the next day , now don't tell me at least they admitted , its just because they had nowhere to run they admitted. so yes your tv stations tell lies.

about the part in blue , its the guest's opinion , how about that this FTV lie / showing what they want , is just the reporter's opinion ( le a3ad l report :) ) . things can get twisted anyway you want.

briefly , all tv stations opened by parties do tell lies , no exceptions.

[Dark Angel]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

which reminds how gazi al aridi was saying live on tv yesterday morning in a show how all parties in lebanon are corrupt and no one should complain too much about it hehe

very nice, thieves nicely equating everybody with them even those who didn't steal hehe

fabricating the news is something ok if ftv does it, after all, it's the shahid station.. ppl get offended if u call them idiots for believe that trash station.

in a comparison between Napoleon and the bolshevik revolution, it was said that while both achieved equality, Napoleon brought the french people to the level of kings, however the bolshevik revolution brought kings down to the level of common people.

the only way Aridi and his friends can survive is to bring everyone down to their level.

[Nasser]

Also who here doesn't remember the photoshopped image shown by GMA HIMSELF on Manar TV ... when it comes to lying , you're experts.

[Abotareq93]

Originally Posted by Dark Angel

in a comparison between Napoleon and the bolshevik revolution, it was said that while both achieved equality, Napoleon brought the french people to the level of kings, however the bolshevik revolution brought kings down to the level of common people.

the only way Aridi and his friends can survive is to bring everyone down to their level.

Gazi Aridi is the best reference in this field; he built a very fancy palace in his village Baysour immediately after the war; where the money comes from? As far as I know, he comes from a poor family.
A thief can see others only as thieves, he cannot tolerate the idea that there are honest people in this universe.

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Nasser

Also who here doesn't remember the photoshopped image shown by GMA HIMSELF on Manar TV ... when it comes to lying , you're experts.

ya sure, gma himself photoshoped an image of a hizbullah fighter as an Lfer and put it with other REAL photos, just for the heck of it..
there was no other stupider way to do it..
plus, it was not slipped online by Lfers themselves to make it backfire on gma, no..

so wow, with such an acute sense of investigation, i'm sure u guys will definitely discover the green aliens that assassinated harriri with a photon missile.

god bless

[Nasser]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

ya sure, gma himself photoshoped an image of a hizbullah fighter as an Lfer and put it with other REAL photos, just for the heck of it..
there was no other stupider way to do it..
plus, it was not slipped online by Lfers themselves to make it backfire on gma, no..

so wow, with such an acute sense of investigation, i'm sure u guys will definitely discover the green aliens that assassinated harriri with a photon missile.

god bless

And as if Hariri himself told FTV to cut GMA's speech and told them to show what they want :D... but in the opposite someone was not smart enough to identify an obvious faked image ...

god bless these elite people of our society :)

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by leb-wi-noss

Would you guarantee that the posts won't be deleted when giving examples? Would you guarantee that the post won't be considered out of subject?
I totally agree that FTV is a propaganda machine, I won't defend it for a second and they are not professional at all.
But exactly the same applies to OTV. The worse in your case is that Hariri doesn't personally gets involved in this campaign while your leader does. And when the truth is revealed, you blame it on someone else.
You accuse others of bribing people by bringing them to Lebanon to vote. Check in Montreal what SSNP and FPMers doing to take people to vote, do you dare to be objective and mention that on OTV?

So, ma 7ada a7san min 7ada.

La2 fi nes a7san min ness.

We are giving you proofs and you are still lying by accusing people without any proof, show your proof or don't feel bad if i call you a liar for accusing people without any proof, up until now you have proven you are just talking bull without any proof, in other words a pathological liar.

[vegojimbo]

Originally Posted by Nasser

Each side have proofs? how so? if there is proof of something , you can't have another proof about its opposite , while still considering the first still as proof. so yes your tv stations tell lies.

so it's conclusive that FM had no relation to FEI and Jund el Cham? even though Bahia publicly aided Jund el cham financially, and although there are multiple reports about FM being in connection with FEI?
Do not accuse others of lying until u are absolutely sure of the truth.

About the Beirut Arab University , Manar accused that guy of being militia leader, and when its exposed to public that he is 'moutatawe3 es3af' and was helping people to get out of the line of fire , THEY ADMITTED their lie the next day , now don't tell me at least they admitted , its just because they had nowhere to run they admitted. so yes your tv stations tell lies.

Manar isn't my TV station, and I do not know much about the incident, so perhaps Manar did lie. I don't hold the facts and parameters of that case.

about the part in blue , its the guest's opinion , how about that this FTV lie / showing what they want , is just the reporter's opinion ( le a3ad l report :) ) . things can get twisted anyway you want.

Comparing apples to oranges? A reporter's opinion is one thing, a guest's is another. The station is liable for the actions of its reporters but not those of its guests.

briefly , all tv stations opened by parties do tell lies , no exceptions.

Not necessarily true. They are all biased, but not all tell lies.
Some individuals do like to generalize though, in order to be able to defend the undefendable. That is one established truth.