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LEBANESE FRONT how dare you call M14 march 14 we here at the forum call them valentinos and feb14 since we can't accept the fact that there ever was a march 14 and this day for us was a normal day .
we relate more to 8 of march when hassan nasrallah said thank you syria for those beautiful 30 years of occupation and killings.

and please all our problems come from rafik hariri even now that he's dead all the killings and the bombs are masterminded by him under the grave.

and of course we would never forgive samir geagea but we can easily forgive bachar for all the killings since he hates rafik hariri as much as we do.

and the most important is that we hate everyone who's not with FPM but the moment he becomes FPM we worship him like Michel Murr or wi'am wahhab.

we are the FPMers the most objective and representative of the educated christians in lebanon.

the LF are zo3ran and RH is a thief this is our motto

WOW. you read my mind:

1- All our problems come from Rafik Harriri, more after his death
2- We would never forgive Samir Geagea
3- We worship everyone with FPM
4- FPMers are most educated....
5- LF are Zo3ran and RH is the BIGGEST thief

Ma Ma32oul, wlak uffffff
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I have the right to express my thoughts on this forum wherever i want, whenever i want, without having to deal with that kind of bashing especially from the admins!!!

thats completely outrageous!! how can u tell me where i can and where i cant put my nose??
do i represent the syrian regime in any way???
how am i interfering in lebanese-lebanese issue? do i have a party of my own, and in whose name im speaking out on this forum??

does my membership on the orange room specify that my priviledges only apply to topics discussing syrian-lebanese relations??

u have the absolute right to say that u dont want the syrian regime to interfere in lebanese politics, but how can u say that u dont want that humble virtual guy called "syrian" on this forum not to discuss lebanese politics??

im also sorry for all those guys who thanked what u said... im really disappointed of this behaviour...

another incident that proves yet again that lebanese still cannot distinguish between the syrian regime and syrian normal people...
Syrian, You can obviously post what you want, and the above is proof enough for you. Please remember that you are a member of a country and regime that have occupied, oppressed, killed and raped Lebanon for a very long time, and continues to exert undue influence on Lebanon and maintains armed factions still today within our borders, and holds Lebanese prisoners. There is a lot of understandable resentment towards your regime and your country. Now of course, there are many Syrians that disagree with what their regime and country did in Lebanon and condemn it. Are you one of them? There are many Syrians that do not believe that Lebanon should be part of Syria are you one of them? There are many Syrians that acknowledge the independence of Lebanon are you one of them? There are many Syrians that classify the Syrian occupation of Lebanon as an occupation are you one of them? There are many Syrians that acknowledge that Syria continues to strong-arm Lebanon politically and condemn that are you one of them? There are many Syrians that would like proper diplomatic and equal relationships between the two countries are you one of them? There are many Syrians that would agree that the presence of Syrian supported armed palestinian factions in Lebanon is a breach of Lebanese sovereignty are you one of them? and there are many many more issues that I am sure you can figure out on your own...

There are many questions surrounding Syria, and the Syrian people whether they like it or not are a part of what happened and is happening. You seem eager to jump and weigh in on Lebanese issues, but lets hear where you stand vis-a-vis these issues above so we can better distinguish you from your government and regime. The ball is in your court...
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Syrian, You can obviously post what you want, and the above is proof enough for you. Please remember that you are a member of a country and regime that have occupied, oppressed, killed and raped Lebanon for a very long time, and continues to exert undue influence on Lebanon and maintains armed factions still today within our borders, and holds Lebanese prisoners. There is a lot of understandable resentment towards your regime and your country. Now of course, there are many Syrians that disagree with what their regime and country did in Lebanon and condemn it. Are you one of them? There are many Syrians that do not believe that Lebanon should be part of Syria are you one of them? There are many Syrians that acknowledge the independence of Lebanon are you one of them? There are many Syrians that classify the Syrian occupation of Lebanon as an occupation are you one of them? There are many Syrians that acknowledge that Syria continues to strong-arm Lebanon politically and condemn that are you one of them? There are many Syrians that would like proper diplomatic and equal relationships between the two countries are you one of them? There are many Syrians that would agree that the presence of Syrian supported armed palestinian factions in Lebanon is a breach of Lebanese sovereignty are you one of them? and there are many many more issues that I am sure you can figure out on your own...

There are many questions surrounding Syria, and the Syrian people whether they like it or not are a part of what happened and is happening. You seem eager to jump and weigh in on Lebanese issues, but lets hear where you stand vis-a-vis these issues above so we can better distinguish you from your government and regime. The ball is in your court...
There are hundreds of Lebanese soldiers who fought the Syrian army and gave them hell on several fronts, were you one of them?

there are dozens of Lebanese soldiers who lost their lives while trying to stave off the oct 13th onslaught, which was orchestrated by the country where you're residing and whose ideas and principles you're campaigning for...were you one of those soldiers?

there are thousands and thousands of Lebanese young men and women who resisted the occupation, oppression, and "raping" you talked about (although no one raped us, s2al mjarrib ;), spraying random graffiti, posting pictures, hanging posters, getting sprayed with fire engine hoses, getting beaten, tortured, thrown in jail, and going through all sorts of **** just to tell the whole world that the Lebanese just won't sit there and take it...
WERE YOU ONE OF THESE HEROES?

i would like to indicate that i am by no means trying to defend the syrians and what they did in Lebanon, for as FPMers we suffered the most...however, Mr Joseph, before turning to what others did to our country, don't u think it would be good to turn to ourselves and perform some sort of introspection?
in other words, "ask not what Syria has done to your country, but ask what YOU did to counter these actions"...
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Syrian, You can obviously post what you want, and the above is proof enough for you. Please remember that you are a member of a country and regime that have occupied, oppressed, killed and raped Lebanon for a very long time, and continues to exert undue influence on Lebanon and maintains armed factions still today within our borders, and holds Lebanese prisoners. There is a lot of understandable resentment towards your regime and your country. Now of course, there are many Syrians that disagree with what their regime and country did in Lebanon and condemn it. Are you one of them? There are many Syrians that do not believe that Lebanon should be part of Syria are you one of them? There are many Syrians that acknowledge the independence of Lebanon are you one of them? There are many Syrians that classify the Syrian occupation of Lebanon as an occupation are you one of them? There are many Syrians that acknowledge that Syria continues to strong-arm Lebanon politically and condemn that are you one of them? There are many Syrians that would like proper diplomatic and equal relationships between the two countries are you one of them? There are many Syrians that would agree that the presence of Syrian supported armed palestinian factions in Lebanon is a breach of Lebanese sovereignty are you one of them? and there are many many more issues that I am sure you can figure out on your own...

There are many questions surrounding Syria, and the Syrian people whether they like it or not are a part of what happened and is happening. You seem eager to jump and weigh in on Lebanese issues, but lets hear where you stand vis-a-vis these issues above so we can better distinguish you from your government and regime. The ball is in your court...
I believe that you are neither a district attorney, nor charged to judge posters over here,or to ask them inquisitory or accusatory questions.

No one has to answer to your questions and accusations,or prove or justify himself either to you or to anyone else,in order for him to be able to post his opinion without being harassed.

No offense Joseph,but your tone and attitude here are not respectful,and your post here is totally misplaced and without any doubt, Off topic.
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dear joseph

seriously, do i need to declare my stance on several issues everytime i try to express my thought here?

i dont want this thread to go off subject, but if people want me to clarify my position concerning those points you talked about, i'd be happy to answer your questions in another thread... so i encourage you to create a new one entitled "Is Syrian one of them?", put those questions and u will get my answers...

i know it sounds weird to some of you that a lame syrian is talking about lebanese internal affairs... but u miss the point that syrians and lebanese are living in the same region, so they basically share the same ****... we have so many problems in common that it'd be a good thing to try to exchange ideas...

and btw, since the LF claim to be the very blessed party of all the christians under the leadership of christ-chosen SG, i guess i have the right at least as a christian to say two words at their face...
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There are hundreds of Lebanese soldiers who fought the Syrian army and gave them hell on several fronts, were you one of them?

there are dozens of Lebanese soldiers who lost their lives while trying to stave off the oct 13th onslaught, which was orchestrated by the country where you're residing and whose ideas and principles you're campaigning for...were you one of those soldiers?

there are thousands and thousands of Lebanese young men and women who resisted the occupation, oppression, and "raping" you talked about (although no one raped us, s2al mjarrib ;), spraying random graffiti, posting pictures, hanging posters, getting sprayed with fire engine hoses, getting beaten, tortured, thrown in jail, and going through all sorts of **** just to tell the whole world that the Lebanese just won't sit there and take it...
WERE YOU ONE OF THESE HEROES?

i would like to indicate that i am by no means trying to defend the syrians and what they did in Lebanon, for as FPMers we suffered the most...however, Mr Joseph, before turning to what others did to our country, don't u think it would be good to turn to ourselves and perform some sort of introspection?
in other words, "ask not what Syria has done to your country, but ask what YOU did to counter these actions"...
Cheers...
this is getting really out of topic but...

Yes
Yes (was Aoun part of them on the 13th Octobre?)
Yes

Actually i am hoping the day will come when i will ask syria for what it did to my country
and make her pay for every bomb that exploded on lebanese land...
Germany paid for years what it caused in the wars, syria will suffer the same someday
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Germany paid for years what it caused in the wars, syria will suffer the same someday
let me correct your statement..

Germany paid in WWI after it "lost" the war.. (the armistice can be considered equivalent to a loss).. but look what happened after 1933...

BUT...
Japan didn't pay a dime for China, Philippines, Korea, ....
France didn't pay a dime to Algeria..
UK didn't pay a dime to any of its old dominions...
Germany didn't pay anything after WWII.
Italy didn't pay anything to Libya.

etc....
etc....

how do u expect the syrians to pay?
shall we close the borders with syria until they pay reparations and compensation?
do u expect the same from Israel?

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LEBANESE FRONT how dare you call M14 march 14 we here at the forum call them valentinos and feb14 since we can't accept the fact that there ever was a march 14 and this day for us was a normal day .
we relate more to 8 of march when hassan nasrallah said thank you syria for those beautiful 30 years of occupation and killings.
مش بس جلبوط، ولا أسخف كمان

It IS because FPMers relate to M14 that we can't accept the fact of having FM+PSP+LF+Kataeb+epsilons call themelves M14.

March_14 = FPM
March_14_2005 = FPM+FM+LF+Kataeb+PSP+ε

==> March_14_2005 - FPM = FM+LF+Kataeb+PSP+ε

Since FM+LF+Kataeb+PSP+ε have been gathering lately on Feb_14 of each year for the last 3 years, and not on March_14, and having FPM celebrating March_14 for the last mmm, 20 years,
Hence, March_14_2005 - FPM = Feb_14 = FM+LF+Kataeb+PSP+epsilons

As simple as that, get over your obsession.
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this is getting really out of topic but...

Yes
Yes (was Aoun part of them on the 13th Octobre?)
Yes


Actually i am hoping the day will come when i will ask syria for what it did to my country
and make her pay for every bomb that exploded on lebanese land...
Germany paid for years what it caused in the wars, syria will suffer the same someday
وأنا كنت على جبهة سوق الغرب

cut the **** man, i'm sick and tired of the likes of you...
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let me correct your statement..

Germany paid in WWI after it "lost" the war.. (the armistice can be considered equivalent to a loss).. but look what happened after 1933...

BUT...
Japan didn't pay a dime for China, Philippines, Korea, ....
France didn't pay a dime to Algeria..
UK didn't pay a dime to any of its old dominions...
Germany didn't pay anything after WWII.
Italy didn't pay anything to Libya.

etc....
etc....

how do u expect the syrians to pay?
shall we close the borders with syria until they pay reparations and compensation?
do u expect the same from Israel?

kappa
let me correct your statment

Germany paid for both First and Second wars
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