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Iran a third

Syria a fourth
it cant be those two countries because the only two countries been using " مادة الزئبق الاحمر الشديدة الانفجار والي تُستخدم في عمليات الانشطار النووي " are US and Israel, And their is alot of proof that these two countries used these kind of materials. 2006 war and Iraq accupation are good examples.
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What is red mercury?
By Chris Summers
BBC News

Three men have been cleared of trying to procure the raw ingredients for a "dirty bomb" which the prosecution claimed could have devastated a British city if it fell into the hands of terrorists. But mystery surrounds the material at the centre of the plot. So what exactly is red mercury?

The most bizarre aspect of the trial of Abdurahman Kanyare and his two co-defendants was the fact that no-one in the court could be certain whether the terrifying substance on which the entire prosecution case was based actually existed.

The prosecutor, Mark Ellison, admitted the police had no idea if there even was such a thing as red mercury - supposedly the main ingredient for a "dirty bomb" which could have devastated London.

But he told the jury at the outset: "The Crown's position is that whether red mercury does or does not exist is irrelevant."

He warned the jury not to get "hung up" on whether red mercury actually existed at all.

Mr Ellison said the fact was that the three defendants had hit upon a meaning for it as a substance which was highly dangerous and expensive, and they pursued it.

Urban myth

The indictment accused them of "conspiring together and with persons unknown to possess and article, namely a highly dangerous mercury-based substance, in circumstances which gave rise to a reasonable suspicion that it was to be possessed for a purpose connected with the commission, preparation or instigation of an act of terrorism."

It emerged during the trial at the Old Bailey that red mercury was something of an urban myth, a substance which was either radioactive or toxic or neither, depending on who you spoke to.

Indeed some of the conversations between undercover reporter Mazher Mahmood and the prospective buyers were bordering on the farcical.

At one meeting in a shopping arcade in Edgware, north London both sides kept asking what it was that they thought the other side was there to buy or sell.

Mahmood kept repeating, probably for the sake of his covert recordings: "Now let's just make it clear what exactly it is you want to buy."

Kanyare replied: "You know what we're here for."

When he gave evidence Kanyare said he believed red mercury was a liquid which could be used to wash soiled money.

Summing up, The Recorder of London, Judge Peter Beaumont, said: "He (Kanyare) told you that Muslim people from the Middle East are usually on the lookout for red mercury as a medicine, I thought he said for impotency but the other barristers thought he said it was for long life. Whatever it was, he said it was a faith medicine."

Kanyare testified that he had absolutely no interest in procuring a radioactive or toxic substance and would have had no means of testing it anyway.

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The trial heard that when detectives checked Dominick Martins' computer after his arrest they found evidence that he had been scouring the internet trying to find out about red mercury.

He was particularly interested by an article, by Dr Anne Marie Helmenstine, which was posted on the About.com website.

The article aired the various theories about what red mercury is without confirming whether or not it really existed at all.

The five main theories are:

# That red mercury is a reference to cinnabar, a naturally-occurring mercuric sulphide. The red pigment derived from cinnabar is known as vermillion.

# That it is a reference to the alpha crystalline form of mercury iodide, which changes to a yellow colour at very high temperatures.

# That it is simply referring to any mercury compound originating from the former Soviet Union. The 'red' tag would simply be a legacy of the Cold War era.

# That it is a ballotechnic mercury compound which just happens to be red in colour. Ballotechnics are substances which react very energetically when subjected to shock compression at high pressure. They include mercury antimony oxide which, according to some reports, is a cherry red semi-liquid produced in Russian nuclear reactors. This theory contends that it is so explosive that a fusion reaction - a nuclear explosion - can be triggered even without fissionable material such as uranium.

# That it is a military codeword for a new nuclear material, probably manufactured in Russia.

Interestingly Dr Helmenstine mentioned rumours of prices of up to $300,000 being charged on the black market for a kilogram of red mercury.

But is there any way of knowing if red mercury really did exist?

No bigger than a baseball

In the early 1990s, in the wake of the collapse of the Soviet Union, several articles were published claiming that a pure fusion device had been invented.

It reportedly weighed around 10 pounds and was no bigger than a baseball.

If such a device existed, and was capable of triggering a nuclear explosion, the threat to the world - especially the western world - would be catastrophic.

But no such bomb has been discovered and nobody - not even Osama bin Laden from his mountain base in Afghanistan or Pakistan - has even threatened to use one.

So is red mercury just a hoax?

Let us hope so.

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What is red mercury?

* David Adam
* The Guardian,
* Thursday September 30 2004
* Article history

The only thing we can be sure of is that it's a ripping yarn. Rumours that Soviet nuclear experts had produced a mysterious explosive material with unimaginable destructive power first circulated in the 1970s, and despite several official investigations and subsequent denials the story refuses to die. The near-mythical compound cropped up again on Sunday, when the News of the World claimed it had foiled a terrorist plot to buy red mercury as material for a dirty bomb.

Depending on who you believe, red mercury is either an elaborate hoax, a codename for nuclear material smuggled through the former iron curtain, or a terrifying new trigger for a handheld hydrogen bomb. What it isn't, according to the speculation and hearsay that makes up the scientific literature on the subject, is any use for a dirty bomb (one that scatters radioactive material).

"Nobody would dream of getting that stuff for a dirty bomb," says Frank Barnaby, a nuclear physicist who worked at the Atomic Weapons Establishment at Aldermaston in the 1950s. "For a terrorist it would offer no significant advantages over an ordinary high explosive or, if they wanted a dirty bomb, a radioactive source. To go to the trouble of spending huge amounts of money on red mercury makes no sense at all."

Particularly so if all you get for the News of the World's reported price of £300,000 a kilo is mercury dyed red with nail varnish, which, according to a 1994 investigation by the Russian prosecutor-general's office, is what was in the "red mercury" sold by Russian conmen throughout Europe and the Middle East after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Others, including Sam Cohen, the inventor of the neutron bomb, disagree, and Barnaby says there is evidence that the Soviets churned out vast quantities of mercury antimony oxide, the intermediate - and equally elusive - compound from which red mercury is supposedly produced by placing it inside a nuclear reactor. "There's no doubt that they made a large amount of that stuff. I've talked to chemists who have analysed it in East Germany," he says. "But what they did with it is a mystery."

Some say the intermediate compound can multiply the yield of explosions and that it was used inside conventional Soviet nuclear weapons or as a rocket fuel additive. Others say the compound was irradi ated in the core of nuclear reactors to produce pure red mercury, capable of exploding with enough heat and pressure to act as a trigger inside a briefcase-sized fusion bomb.

The International Atomic Energy Authority in Vienna takes a different view. "Red mercury doesn't exist," a spokesman says. "The whole thing is a bunch of malarkey."

What is red mercury? | Science | The Guardian
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the whole matter with red mercury is a call for trouble.

for starters how do u know they have the unindentified substance or not?
the only thing u can do is charge them for their intentions.

it's a hellish matter to solve this in labs. so what is red mercury?

supposedly this can be used in new sorts of nuclear bombs.. but what is their use without nuclear detonations, is their yield high enough so that very very small amounts can be used to create big explosions to assassinate ppl ?..

finally, if indeed they paid millions of dollars for these things, real or fake, who can afford to squander money like that on ambiguous substances.

who is rich enough to fund these wacko endeavors amongst thousands of others..

many things need to be answered, but for now it looks like lebanon has been the playing ground for many big and bored international players latetly, from the 'bomb detecting' Snifex and Quadro fiascos to now this controversial red mercury explosive material.

30+ unknown explosions and assassinations and weird pseudo science and future science are all mingling here in lebanon turning it into a freaking twilight zone..
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Is this confirmed news ? If not, then we have to wait for the lab results ..
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You can call the substance Red Pheonix, for what it matters, ya Red . Hoax or not, something is definitely not right here. There's a touch of déjà vue over this Mercury story, kind of reminds me of the WMD joke, preluding Iraqs invasion.

Oh by the way, didn't we lately witness an increase of american intelligence figures, commuting back and forth on half official to official visits? I know that the secret codes of our Tabbouleh mixture have been subject to their focus since decades, but I guess this time it wasn't only for that they have been showing up so frequently.

I'd expect an escalation of the war on lebanese terror the coming months, because "the wheel must not come to rest". However, I for one will not object much when the final decision to exterminate the saudi dumped garbage will be executed over a moonless night, just the way it happened in Nahr El Bared.
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Only fools still hunt for elusive red mercury

* 06 June 1992
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* WILLIAM BOWN


When red mercury first appeared on the international black market 15 years ago, the supposedly top secret nuclear material was 'red' because it came from Russia. When it resurfaced last year in the formerly communist states of Eastern Europe it had unaccountably acquired a red colour. But then, as a report from the US Department of Energy reveals, mysterious transformations are red mercury's stock in trade.

The report, compiled by researchers at the Los Alamos National Laboratory, shows that in the hands of hoaxers and conmen, red mercury can do almost anything the aspiring Third World demagogue wants it to. You want a short cut to making an atom bomb? You want the key to Soviet ballistic missile guidance systems? Or perhaps you want the Russian alternative to the anti-radar paint on the stealth bomber? What you need is red mercury.

Such adaptability does not come cheap. The going rate for red mercury in more than 25 con tricks stretching from Moscow to Pretoria ranges from $40 000 to as much as $500 000 a kilogram. Red mercury's variety of uses is matched by the variation in its physical characteristics. Sometimes it is radioactive, sometimes not. It might be the densest compound known to science, but then again, it might not.

'Pseudo-tech specifications, often accompanying sales pitches, make fantastic claims for red mercury's physical properties,' says the report. 'But in scam after scam over many years, nobody has produced anything extraordinary.'

In the past year, news reports of red mercury - some sceptical, some less so - have mushroomed in the European media. Last December, for example, a report in The Guardian stated that red mercury 'is used in nuclear technology and in the construction of ballistic missiles'. In fact, all the samples of red mercury which official agencies have recovered since the late 1970s have had no unusual properties.

The DOE report says that pure mercury, a mercury-antimony compound, mercuric iodide and mercuric oxide have all been offered for sale. None has any special military application. According to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), mercuric cyanate has also been touted. It at least has the virtue of being reddish and explosive but has been used for decades in artillery shells.

'There are reports of mercury stained red, and there is a report of one lazy con artist trying to sell mercury in a bottle painted red with nail polish,' the report says. When Czechoslovakian officials arrested one dealer they had to return the red mercury because the substance was so ordinary that they had no powers to confiscate it.

Not all prospective buyers are taken in, however. David Kay, who led the IAEA inspection of Iraq after the Gulf War, says the Iraqis had four filing cabinets of offers for red mercury - all of them laughingly dismissed by his hosts.

The DOE has come to the conclusion that red mercury does not exist. However, offers of red mercury have been accompanied by offers of enriched uranium, small quantities of plutonium and a conventional warhead from an SS-19 missile - which is reason enough for officials from the department to carry on monitoring traffic in red mercury.
From issue 1824 of New Scientist magazine, 06 June 1992, page 10


Only fools still hunt for elusive red mercury - 06 June 1992 - New Scientist
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ضبط مع المجموعة الإرهابية في الجنوب مادة الزئبق الاحمر الشديدة الانفجار والي تُستخدم في عمليات الانشطار النووي وقد حصلت عليها من جهات لبنانية وخارجية (معلومات للمنار)
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HEy Everyone,
I As a lebanese I would like to Ask questions.
First how can these terrorist gain "مادة الزئبق الاحمر " ?
Second From where did they get that much money? "As you know one bottle costs 1 million dollars.

Thirdly who is behind these groups?
عن روح الرئيس الشهيد رفيق الحريري

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it cant be those two countries because the only two countries been using " مادة الزئبق الاحمر الشديدة الانفجار والي تُستخدم في عمليات الانشطار النووي " are US and Israel, And their is alot of proof that these two countries used these kind of materials. 2006 war and Iraq accupation are good examples.
and russia.. who has closes ties with iran and is helping it with its nuclear program
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there is nothing called "red mercury". Absolute myth. It might be a code name for something else like plutonium or something dangerous but true red mercury simply do not exist. I am saying that due to my knowledge and due to my expertise in the field. ( I am a scientist in case any intelligence agency is reading so that they do not get alerted by my comments).
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