Tashnag, Armenians, and the Elections - Page 4 - The Orange Room

Armenian

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Originally Posted by ZakiNassif

I have a question to fellow armenians or any person who has knowledge about this topic (I was discussing this with a close friend last night and we couldnt reach an agreement):

do you think that it is in the best interest of the Tashnag party to leave the C&R block during the coming 4 years? and if yes would they do it?

Cheers

Dear Zaki,

I didn't want to express my opinion concerning this issue as it might not be pleasant to most of my dear forumers, but as you asked, I will give my PERSONAL opinion about the issue...

The same night of the elections, after the results were out, I was sitting with some officials and the first thing I said was that the best thing the leadership can do now is to leave C&R ( of course by having perfect relations with them) and join the President's block...

I know that some might not agree with me, and I'm not sure if it's possible in the first place, but for the interest of the Armenians in Lebanon, that's my opinion...

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Originally Posted by super mario

is it true that the tashnag international leaders are trying to change the hezb politics in lebanon?

Let me clarify this for the last time...

The international leadership of the Party has no power, by-law, on any party leadership in any country specially if the issue is a local one, like the one you're saying...

The international leadership of the party cannot, and has no right to interfere in our local politics whatsoever...

This should be very clear to everyone in Lebanon...

Thank you!!

josephfpm

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Originally Posted by Armenian

Dear Zaki,

I didn't want to express my opinion concerning this issue as it might not be pleasant to most of my dear forumers, but as you asked, I will give my PERSONAL opinion about the issue...

The same night of the elections, after the results were out, I was sitting with some officials and the first thing I said was that the best thing the leadership can do now is to leave C&R ( of course by having perfect relations with them) and join the President's block...

I know that some might not agree with me, and I'm not sure if it's possible in the first place, but for the interest of the Armenians in Lebanon, that's my opinion...

Let me clarify this for the last time...

The international leadership of the Party has no power, by-law, on any party leadership in any country specially if the issue is a local one, like the one you're saying...

The international leadership of the party cannot, and has no right to interfere in our local politics whatsoever...

This should be very clear to everyone in Lebanon...

Thank you!!

If you do leave the C&R block you would only be doing good to your party for the short term, but in the long term all of us will lose including you.

Emile_Metn

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Originally Posted by Armenian

The same night of the elections, after the results were out, I was sitting with some officials and the first thing I said was that the best thing the leadership can do now is to leave C&R ( of course by having perfect relations with them) and join the President's block...

I know that some might not agree with me, and I'm not sure if it's possible in the first place, but for the interest of the Armenians in Lebanon, that's my opinion...

You are not alone.

We are in contact with a lot of kawedir bel tashnaq, w fi jaww jdid after the elections to get Armenians out of this Istifaf, and join the pro-President block.

LebArmenian

as a Lebanese Armenian. i see that tashnag doing that kind of move will be suicidal for them.

most of tashnag partisans are integrated deeply into FPM. if not as partisans then as supporters,any breach of relations between the 2 parties will harm tashnag as it will loose an important part of its base.

sev

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Originally Posted by LebArmenian

as a Lebanese Armenian. i see that tashnag doing that kind of move will be suicidal for them.

most of tashnag partisans are integrated deeply into FPM. if not as partisans then as supporters,any breach of relations between the 2 parties will harm tashnag as it will loose an important part of its base.

Exactly, alot of us armenians are more FPMers then tashnag..
our feeling is mix of both..

General Aoun is a rare non-armenian leader who entered many armenian people hearts.

e.kid

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Originally Posted by Armenian

Dear Zaki,

I didn't want to express my opinion concerning this issue as it might not be pleasant to most of my dear forumers, but as you asked, I will give my PERSONAL opinion about the issue...

The same night of the elections, after the results were out, I was sitting with some officials and the first thing I said was that the best thing the leadership can do now is to leave C&R ( of course by having perfect relations with them) and join the President's block...

I know that some might not agree with me, and I'm not sure if it's possible in the first place, but for the interest of the Armenians in Lebanon, that's my opinion...

Why wait so long
Why didnt you take that decision one month ago and got 2 more MPs in your kétlé

twaynz

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Originally Posted by Armenian

The same night of the elections, after the results were out, I was sitting with some officials and the first thing I said was that the best thing the leadership can do now is to leave C&R ( of course by having perfect relations with them) and join the President's block...

Which President block? Did someone else than MM make it from the President's candidates?

hunter007

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Originally Posted by Emile_Metn

You are not alone.

We are in contact with a lot of kawedir bel tashnaq, w fi jaww jdid after the elections to get Armenians out of this Istifaf, and join the pro-President block.

is it you Mgr Saliba

scorpion

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Originally Posted by sev

Exactly, alot of us armenians are more FPMers then tashnag..
our feeling is mix of both..

General Aoun is a rare non-armenian leader who entered many armenian people hearts.

it is weird because as I remeber in the past 50 yrs and up to 2005 all tashnaq partisans and fellow armenians were to the bones with Murr and against the opposition! and we had many elections battles in the past were Tashnag+Murr faced the opposition which included at that time FPM, still the turn into fpm lately and full support to them is not so much understood and doesnt seem on solid grounds.

for example I remeber not a long time ago in the 2004 municipal election there were some clashes between tashnaq and fpm, and during the elections of Mirnav.s Gaby where gaby was supported by FPM, tashnaq was hardcore to the bones with Michel Murr and fighting fiercely against fpm...

GMA forever

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Originally Posted by scorpion

it is weird because as I remeber in the past 50 yrs and up to 2005 all tashnaq partisans and fellow armenians were to the bones with Murr and against the opposition! and we had many elections battles in the past were Tashnag+Murr faced the opposition which included at that time FPM, still the turn into fpm lately and full support to them is not so much understood and doesnt seem on solid grounds.

for example I remeber not a long time ago in the 2004 municipal election there were some clashes between tashnaq and fpm, and during the elections of Mirnav.s Gaby where gaby was supported by FPM, tashnaq was hardcore to the bones with Michel Murr and fighting fiercely against fpm...

Since Hariri wants total supremacy over his allies, parties like FPM and Tashnag will never be able to ally with him. Those are parties who have a lot of popular support and are not waiting for Hariri to give them a couple of seats here and there.

This is why you will always see Hariri's allies to be smaller parties like Hanshag from the armenians side, and Doury, Caghlos, Ja3ja3, Gemayel ..... from the other christian parties.

The day any of these small parties will happen to gather enough popular support, be sure they won't wait one second to break their alliance (servitude) to Hariri.