Tashnag, Armenians, and the Elections

[Armenian]

الرئيس ميشال سليمان التقى وفدا من حزب الطاشناق

عرض رئيس الجمهورية العماد ميشال سليمان مع وفد حزب الطاشناق الذي ضم الامين العام هوفيك مخيتاريان والنائب اغوب بقرادونيان والوزير السابق سيبوه هوفنانيان الاوضاع العامة ومرحلة ما بعد الانتخابات النيابية.

[super mario]

one of the zelem of michel el murr said ntor ou chuf chu bado ya3mil el mhandis bel taschnag

[arman-i]

Originally Posted by super mario

one of the zelem of michel el murr said ntor ou chuf chu bado ya3mil el mhandis bel taschnag

yeah right , we are waiting . but isn't it obvious that "el mhandis" ma2tou3 7isso those two last days!!!!!!

really it's a banana republic , if you are not with me than you are a traitor for lebanon .... i wish people may quit those things and only look for lebanon's interests.

[ElieCedar]

It's sad an ironic how FPMers turned Armenians into a "cult" and injected hatred into them. Traditionally, Armenians coasted a middle-ground politics and always sided with the State and the Presidency. Now the majority of them find themselves opposed to the State, this is not in their interest. Time will prove that they committed a huge political faux-pas.
Elie

[Armenian]

Originally Posted by ElieCedar

It's sad an ironic how FPMers turned Armenians into a "cult" and injected hatred into them. Traditionally, Armenians coasted a middle-ground politics and always sided with the State and the Presidency. Now the majority of them find themselves opposed to the State, this is not in their interest. Time will prove that they committed a huge political faux-pas.
Elie

I agree with you on the part that Armenians were always with the state, but let me explain to you briefly why it wasn't a political faux-pas...

Till 2000, we were always with the state and the President, but that was costly at that time, as the President was Mr Lahoud, and Hariri, your ally, had problems with that... He decided to get rid of the Armenian block and join ALL the Armenian MPs in his block and of course make them puppets in his hand.

Of Course the only Armenian party who said NO to this was Tashnag, so Hariri decided to nominate MPs without even consulting any party. So after 2000 elections, we tried to open new bridges with Hariri, but the big earthquake of 2005 came, and his son didn't know the game, and decided to close ALL bridges with Tashnag, the majority of the Armenians in Lebanon. In 2005, I hope you remember, your allies refused to have any Tashnag minister in the government. And the only person who stood next to us and defended us was GMA, either you like him or not...

So read through the lines of history and you'll understand that it was not a mistake but a reaction to a big marginalizing attempts

I hope you can understand the basic reasons...

So is it to be with any President or the President you like?

Thank you!!

[coralie]

Originally Posted by ElieCedar

It's sad an ironic how FPMers turned Armenians into a "cult" and injected hatred into them. Traditionally, Armenians coasted a middle-ground politics and always sided with the State and the Presidency. Now the majority of them find themselves opposed to the State, this is not in their interest. Time will prove that they committed a huge political faux-pas.
Elie

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA good joke elie cedar !!!
was nt the 2 best right wings leaders who cursed the Amenians using all sort of bad names against them walawwwwwwwwwwwww ya elie cedar nsit ? gemayel speach in bikfaya during and after the 2007 metn by elections next to him standing your sanctified wise man geagea with a devilish smile on his face !!!! walawwwwwwwww la7a2et tensa el kalem elli metel el samm tab3oul al tifla al mou3jiza Nayla Tueni eli ma khalit wala ba2it 3al arman wlak few days ago ! wlak steho ba2a .

ma tchilo men .... w thoto bi ghayrkon !

[GMA forever]

Originally Posted by ElieCedar

It's sad an ironic how FPMers turned Armenians into a "cult" and injected hatred into them. Traditionally, Armenians coasted a middle-ground politics and always sided with the State and the Presidency. Now the majority of them find themselves opposed to the State, this is not in their interest. Time will prove that they committed a huge political faux-pas.
Elie

Nobody turns anyone into anything in Lebanon ya Elie, people are not fools. Armenians fought for their right against the shark who wanted to swallow their voice and impose their MP's on them and they succeeded.

Those are honourable people with honourable cause, and they don't sell their future so easily to Hariri just like LFers do.

[ZakiNassif]

I have a question to fellow armenians or any person who has knowledge about this topic (I was discussing this with a close friend last night and we couldnt reach an agreement):

do you think that it is in the best interest of the Tashnag party to leave the C&R block during the coming 4 years? and if yes would they do it?

Cheers

[super mario]

is it true that the tashnag international leaders are trying to change the hezb politics in lebanon?

[sev]

Originally Posted by super mario

is it true that the tashnag international leaders are trying to change the hezb politics in lebanon?

In foreign media, they wrote armenians supporting hezbollah alliance(http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/26/wo...ref=middleeast) . This hurts us, as we are pushing toward armenian genocide recognition from western goverments.


So I think it could be true tashnag international leaders trying to change hezb politics in lebanon.Its just analysis I am doing