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Originally Posted by hannaalsayssa unless done by sg
what is disgusting in the whole issue, is not the bombing act ( we are used to sg anyway)
IS THIS SO CALLED PRINCE OF CHURCH , THAT bishop WHO CAN LIGTHLY MEET WITH SUCH SCUM AND JOKE OVER IT.
a supposedly religious man, a defender of teh faith, an upholder of canon law, meeting and goven audience to a known killer and A CHURCH BOMBER..go figure. tfehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..
ma ajwwa men sg ella rejall al ka7nout 3enna ( well most of them to be fair).
he physically assassinate people
they assassinate their souls. | mesh bas heik, 3am bi haddedo bi te7rim yalli biyente2edon w biyente2ed "syedto"! bas yalli bi fajjer knisseh ma3leish, bi sem7ou wbyemza7o ma3o w biya3mloulo 2imeh!!! | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by hannaalsayssa unless done by sg
what is disgusting in the whole issue, is not the bombing act ( we are used to sg anyway)
IS THIS SO CALLED PRINCE OF CHURCH , THAT bishop WHO CAN LIGTHLY MEET WITH SUCH SCUM AND JOKE OVER IT.
a supposedly religious man, a defender of teh faith, an upholder of canon law, meeting and goven audience to a known killer and A CHURCH BOMBER..go figure. tfehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..
ma ajwwa men sg ella rejall al ka7nout 3enna ( well most of them to be fair).
he physically assassinate people
they assassinate their souls. | small HONEST advice to all FPMer
you can hate the clergy people as much as u like - I do sometimes
BUT saying it all the time may not be the best thing to do
a more diplomatic approach will yield better image for FPM rather than being anti-clergy
in such controversial issues being in the middle (at least the official stance) is the best thing to do
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Originally Posted by MockingBird small HONEST advice to all FPMer
you can hate the clergy people as much as u like - I do sometimes
BUT saying it all the time may not be the best thing to do
a more diplomatic approach will yield better image for FPM rather than being anti-clergy
in such controversial issues being in the middle (at least the official stance) is the best thing to do
cheers | Those intrusive FPMers who constantly disclose their hate to the clergy are in many cases, orthodox FPMers, shiite FPMers, armenian FPMers, sunnit FPMers, or even atheist FPMers... so you have to admit that the hate issue is more of a faith issue as well, its not like those highly clergy-critical FPMers are contradicting their religious faith, in many cases they could care less spiritual-wise.
As for the Maronite FPMers on the critic of the clergy, you cannot blame those, the Maronite clergy hasn't shown any good intentions towards them, neither has any clerical institution.
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forgiveness is not the issue, i dont care if geagea bombed a church and if the priests liked it or not.
all i care is for this Lfer logic that a trash piece of human waste a la samir geagea can blow up a church on more than one occasion yet still claim that he is a christian.
ya my pet hamster was more christian than geagea ever was and only fascits weak retarded clergy cover up for blood fiends like samir geagea in their stock of faithful sheeps.
what a joke, he is a christian ?
ah, like priest like pedophile like murderer i guess, all well within the church of 'god'. yet this god they worship is not christian in any way.
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michel smeha also talked about it. he said that geagea apologized for bombing the church. then he stated his opinion that the moutran 2edameh ghafarlo but what geagea should have done is to apologize for the families of the martyrs who died that day. | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by freemind Those intrusive FPMers who constantly disclose their hate to the clergy are in many cases, orthodox FPMers, shiite FPMers, armenian FPMers, sunnit FPMers, or even atheist FPMers... so you have to admit that the hate issue is more of a faith issue as well, its not like those highly clergy-critical FPMers are contradicting their religious faith, in many cases they could care less spiritual-wise.
As for the Maronite FPMers on the critic of the clergy, you cannot blame those, the Maronite clergy hasn't shown any good intentions towards them, neither has any clerical institution.
Being in the middle as you suggested (at least the official stance) is a very good solution election-wise. |
Long time ago when I was (and I still do) attacking our so called Mufti and his satellites like juzu and the other gang members I was asked as to why I do not extend my attacks and critiques to the Christian clergy since some of the issues I criticize the mufti on do apply on Batrak and his satellites. I said " I know the rules of the game and I know how to play that game". I meant exactly people of the same thinking as freemind. People like him will immediately jump and say how would you allow a Sunni to attack you clergy and that it is an issue of faith etc.. and he will instigate the religious feelings and play on a very sensitive nerves. Exactly as Hariri is doing and exactly as geagea and others are doing.
I know that I enjoy a great deal of respect around here among many decent members and I know that many others hate or despise me but I never tried to instigate any secterian feelings. I know that instigating turmoil and blind secterianism will bring disasters to Lebanon. I have our history as a proof. This is exactly what some people will always try to do.
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Originally Posted by MockingBird small HONEST advice to all FPMer
you can hate the clergy people as much as u like - I do sometimes
BUT saying it all the time may not be the best thing to do
a more diplomatic approach will yield better image for FPM rather than being anti-clergy
in such controversial issues being in the middle (at least the official stance) is the best thing to do
cheers | a reciprocal advice
Stop confusing clergy & church with GOD or Jesus himself.
what some people fail to understand and i am not assigning blame, is that the road to a trur beleiver does not have to pass through them.
We can not stand quiet when these so called men of god , meet and cover a known CHURCH BOMBER..
ye3i deya3touna, you accuse us of disrespecting the church and teh day we defend it because it is harboring a known church bomber, we are accused of beinfg anti-church again?????
DEYA3TOUNA...keif ma bramtta al ha2 3layna
As for official stand , i beleive GENERAL made it very clear, we respect the batrak when it comes to religious canon laws, bass in politics we have the right to differ.
SF dwelled on this matter quiet a bit
in a nut shell,
they have their gods ( foulouss)
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Originally Posted by Observer Long time ago when I was (and I still do) attacking our so called Mufti and his satellites like juzu and the other gang members I was asked as to why I do not extend my attacks and critiques to the Christian clergy since some of the issues I criticize the mufti on do apply on Batrak and his satellites. I said " I know the rules of the game and I know how to play that game". I meant exactly people of the same thinking as freemind. People like him will immediately jump and say how would you allow a Sunni to attack you clergy and that it is an issue of faith etc.. and he will instigate the religious feelings and play on a very sensitive nerves. Exactly as Hariri is doing and exactly as geagea and others are doing.
I know that I enjoy a great deal of respect around here among many decent members and I know that many others hate or despise me but I never tried to instigate any secterian feelings. I know that instigating turmoil and blind secterianism will bring disasters to Lebanon. I have our history as a proof. This is exactly what some people will always try to do.
My FPMer friends, be careful of some members or alleged members who might drag you away from the main goal and mission. | an immoral clergy is like a national guard army of deserters.
only hell is fit for those who abuse the legacy of great ppl like jesus christ.
so whenever they misstep again i will drop a hammer on them promptly.
but u are correct, one must know some limits so as to not start a futile religious war, for example i hate corruption in muslim clergy as much as i hate the corruption in their christian counterpart, but i do not bash them cuz that’s the job of the clean elements of their community, not me.
Lebanon just isn’t secular enough for me to bash other community’s clergy without things degenerating quick into a blind faith war even if i could care less about my own clergy. although i still do bash them a tad from time to time, i must admit it lacks vigour and happens once in a long while.
that said, i must admit, 1% of the clergy isn’t that bad and actually is made up of very good moral ppl. talk about divine intervention.. | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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Originally Posted by freemind Those intrusive FPMers who constantly disclose their hate to the clergy are in many cases, orthodox FPMers, shiite FPMers, armenian FPMers, sunnit FPMers, or even atheist FPMers... so you have to admit that the hate issue is more of a faith issue as well, its not like those highly clergy-critical FPMers are contradicting their religious faith, in many cases they could care less spiritual-wise.
As for the Maronite FPMers on the critic of the clergy, you cannot blame those, the Maronite clergy hasn't shown any good intentions towards them, neither has any clerical institution.
Being in the middle as you suggested (at least the official stance) is a very good solution election-wise. | our problem is not their good faith towards us
OUR ISSUE WITH THEM SINCE ETERNITY, is that they never showed any good intentions towards this country or their sect in general.
i would love if they only hate me, and love lebanon and the maronites.
i would shut up , if they yeb3aso...i shi marrat and they act for our survival.
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Originally Posted by hannaalsayssa BTW,personally i do wish they act like the shia, druze sunni clergies who i might differ with them a lot, BASS I CAN NEVER ACCUSE them of letting down their people. | Sunni clergy of darul-fatwa not letting down their people? You must be kidding me. I wish I have more time to just open a thread start talking about the horror done by darul-fatwa and its clergy and employee. It has become 'darul-balwa" instead of "darul-fatwa". | | | | | The Following User Says Thank You to Observer For This Useful Post: | |  | | |
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