To some Fpmers or allies:WHy don't you love Gebran bassil?

[Shah Massoud]

Gibran Bassil is doing a great job ...actually having this burden around him (that he is there just because he is the son-in-law) is pushing him to make bigger efforts....I admire him for that.....

BUT whatever the situation is , you cannot be a party against feodalism and put the family members in key positions : EVEN IF THEY DESRVE IT .....GMA should abstain from naming his relatives....just for the image.....and we all know that politics in Lebanon is all about image

[elias-aj]

Originally Posted by The Jade

But would Abs, Sehnaoui and Kanj be less good than Gebran ?
Don't you think that the whole Gebran issue hurt the FPM more than it helped it ? (From the perception of others who believed that the FPM stuck to its principles and that it's fighting feudalism)

Who knows if Abs, Sehnaoui or Kanj might have been better or less good than Gebran ?

The fact is Gebran Bassil managed, in a way or another, to be minister of telecommunications and he succeeded in his task. Moreover, he's been a very good minister.

To those who are attacking FPM on the "feudalism" field, I'd oppose to them - now - the principle of accountability. I personnally was impressed, when I was in Lebanon, by the number of people - far from being pro-FPM - who were praising Gebran Bassil.

It seems that this "feudalism" argument is only raised by people within FPM and used by the loyalists politicians - but here again, let them clean their own sh**.

Now asking for more transparency in order for us to know why he was chosen, well yes. Asking for a study to know why he failed in Batroun so that we can form a valid opinion on his future position within FPM. Yes, definitely. I'm all for it.

But it has absolutely nothing to do with Gebran Bassil as an individual. That's a whole different subject about FPM as a movement which is changing into a political party.

That being said, I think we'd rather avoid spreading over rumors, hearsay etc. about Gebran, like what some did in some posts. That's really awkward and away from the point. That indeed hurts FPM.

[Youchka]

Originally Posted by Libnene Qu7

Guys, you're missing the point. What would have FPM lost if they appointed any of the names Jade gave? Or even Ibrahim Kanaan? You think these excellent FPMers will do a lousy job like Hmede and other trash that Hariri used to appoint? On the contrary, FPM would have exposed Feb 14 that they're using the wazir reseb as an excuse. Bas badak min yfakir tactics bil FPM because whenever a trap is laid, and it is obvious even to the average Joes like me, FPM falls without any surprises.

I would seriously hate to see the last real hope for Lebanon, the FPM, fall to tribal instincts that has killed progress all accross the political spectrum in our feudal republic.

Again you are missing the point. I don't know what would have happened if FPM appointed other than Gebran, I am no bessara. But what I know is that FPM appointed other than Gebran in the Chou'oun ijtima3iyeh ministry, Mario Aoun, let us see, why don;t I hear you and others like The Jade rating him? That is one of those FPMers you are preaching about, are you satisfied with what he did? Do you think if he was given the telecom he would have been as efficient as Gebran?
As for the trap and the loser thing, the only ones falling into that is obvisouly you and other FPMers. People in general, and non FPMers are happy with what Gebran Bassil has achieved and would like to see him in that ministry again. Even some of our opponents have admitted how great he was in it. So I guess some have become so keen about the image, that they forgot the substance.

[LEBANESE-CIA]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

GB is fighting an epic fight to clean the communication ministry of the corrupt inapt ppl in it, and some fpmers think now is a good time to ask for changing him cuz the guy talks 'funny' and is the son in law of gma or i dont know what..

GB is a freaking worker, that is all that counts and for that he deserves credit

the political call to keep him or remove him is up to gma, so if anyone has a complaint he can direct it to gma and not bassil

GB even lost the batroun tight race cuz gma said the wrong things sometimes b4 that ended up costing GB votes there

so let's not mix things together

i didnt care about GB b4 he showed his work, now i care about him cuz i like his work simple as that

if i had any complains about how gma treats him or how he speaks well i dont have them now cuz they are pretty much irrelevant

the guy is a worker and for that i commend him and blaming him for things that are not his fault isn't so smart, it's not even that constructive at this time even if some fpmers who actually care do it

it's just not fair for someone who actually done his job in the ministry to be treated worse than the worst thieves that ever came there

but hey i'm all for free speech so this is just my 2 cents for it

yeah reffer to item #73
end of repetition story.

[coralie]

well well well the nagging continue !

how nice

so now Gebran Bassil is attcked from all sides just BECAUSE HE IS GMA'S SON IN LAW ? ma32ouleh rasskon ?
ohhhh and some do not like his voice or personality ??? LOL...
and some are asking GMA to refrain from "appointing" relatives ? even if they are exelent for the job ????? realy the new wave of FPMers is amazing !

an jad at7aftouna bhanikon !

why dont you just stop the bull and start see things as they should be seen with a positif mind for a change . walla khalas t3awadto 3al na2 wel salam ?

Gebran Bassil as a minister did a great job whether he is the son in law or not this is not the issue he made a change within this ministry full of corruption , he was the right person in the right place the proof is his achievements fighting like hell the demons that were nurtured for decades in this establishment ! try to analyse what was achieved and avoid focusing on the person ! sarit metel makssar 3assa ossit Bassil GMA's son in law !

if GMA will name Kanaan or Simon abou Ramia , Salim Aoun , Ziad Aswad , ..... we will see people attacking them , if he appoint anyone we will have the same bull over and over again just for the sake of nagging wen sajil maw2af specialy if this person is successful in his job ! FPM or not this is typical lebanese mentality ! we avoid to talk about real problems and attack real problems but are fully ready nta7bich ba3ed from within !

i did not see one FPMer asking what other ministers did/achieved/worked on in their ministries to serve better the citizens , or should we just focus on GMA's son in law the only one publicaly vocal and clear about all his work ?!

you are citizens of this country every and each minister should be held accountable stop focusing on one and let all the others free to sit rip off your money and do nothing for your benefit ! wake up people !

all i see this days is a bunch of so called FPMers complaining all the time and working much less on all levels !

[LEBANESE-CIA]

Originally Posted by coralie

well well well the nagging continue !

how nice

so now Gebran Bassil is attcked from all sides just BECAUSE HE IS GMA'S SON IN LAW ? ma32ouleh rasskon ?
ohhhh and some do not like his voice or personality ??? LOL...
and some are asking GMA to refrain from "appointing" relatives ? even if they are exelent for the job ????? realy the new wave of FPMers is amazing !

an jad at7aftouna bhanikon !

why dont you just stop the bull and start see things as they should be seen with a positif mind for a change . walla khalas t3awadto 3al na2 wel salam ?

Gebran Bassil as a minister did a great job whether he is the son in law or not this is not the issue he made a change within this ministry full of corruption , he was the right person in the right place the proof is his achievements fighting like hell the demons that were nurtured for decades in this establishment ! try to analyse what was achieved and avoid focusing on the person ! sarit metel makssar 3assa ossit Bassil GMA's son in law !

if GMA will name Kanaan or Simon abou Ramia , Salim Aoun , Ziad Aswad , ..... we will see people attacking them , if he appoint anyone we will have the same bull over and over again just for the sake of nagging wen sajil maw2af specialy if this person is successful in his job ! FPM or not this is typical lebanese mentality ! we avoid to talk about real problems and attack real problems but are fully ready nta7bich ba3ed from within !

i did not see one FPMer asking what other ministers did/achieved/worked on in their ministries to serve better the citizens , or should we just focus on GMA's son in law the only one publicaly vocal and clear about all his work ?!

you are citizens of this country every and each minister should be held accountable stop focusing on one and let all the others free to sit rip off your money and do nothing for your benefit ! wake up people !

all i see this days is a bunch of so called FPMers complaining all the time and working much less on all levels !

G.Bassil is a hard working minister,
-has courage and initiatives,
-fights corruption ,
-dedicated to his job,
-fill his post better then any other previous minister before him,
-did reduce the burden on Lebanese ppl , putting project on paper and executing them on the ground in spite of the derailing process caused by crooks in his ministry.
-If he wasn't gma son in law they would find another point to nag about it. it shows how "subjective they are" when they see from one angle.
-If it wasn't bassil in the same spot they will still nag , it becomes a Disease that cause dis-ease .

yalla shabeb joudo nag and criticize, but know that as long as G.bassil is in his post he will do what is good for the country regardless of any relation to any politician and its not just talk, it is what we see. Talk is cheap Action counts and he is doing it....
p.s to those who are nagging
cheers have a Diet Nagging :)

[Danny Z]

because he's Napoleon's son in law and we don't want French emperors to meddle in our internal affairs

[Mar1K]

If you really disagree or dislike Gebran Bassil, please answer those questions.

You surely are not being fair towards the man to hate him because he is related to GMA.

Originally Posted by Mar1K

هذه اسئلة لكل مناصري التيار الوطني الحر و الحلفاء:

١- سمي وزير نجح في وزارة الإتصالات أكثر من جبران باسيل منذ إنشاء هذه الوزارة

٢- سمي خمس وزراء نجحوا أكثر من جبران باسيل في وزارتهم بغض النظر عن الوزارة منذ دولة لبنان الكبير

[Abou Sandal]

The man struggled all his life and worked hard to get where he is, then proved himself to be hard working, competent, efficient and clean...And some people want him to step down and go back home...just because of his family affiliation?

Are you f***ing serious?!!

If I was him and heard that the leadership wants me out, not because of what I did, but because of who I am, I'd leave on the spot and not even bother to look back.

The moment FPM stops backing GB with all it has, just because of his family affiliation, and not because of any wrong doing, I would instantly drop my support for such Party, that is not capable of a minimum of decency and loyalty towards his own cadres.

I call that backstabbing!

Plain and simple.

And by the way, I don't f***ing care about how the opponents can capitalize on such propaganda matter, in order to tarnish FPM's image.

If that opponent is succeeding in his propaganda, it just means that FPM is still not capable of countering him and showing the truth.

This issue is dealt with, by improving FPM's communication's network and skills...Not by bending to the opponent's propaganda and backstabbing its own sons and punishing them!!

Are you out of your mind?

Are you that desperate?!

FPM's principle is to promote people's merits and push them forward...And now that one has shown merits...You want to terminate him because of his family ties?!!

Are you crazy??!!

[Dalzi]

Thank you Abou Sandal, you saved my fingers the typing.

I read some anti Gebran comments saying he's a snob and a show off. I don't know what to say truly... That's their take on him LOL! What next? He's inadequate coz I don't like his shoes?

FPM is full of whingers and whiners. Grow up and get yourselves together.