A Solution to the Lebanese Crisis

[AliArz]

Originally Posted by hannaalsayssa

i think the saudi should come and take their supporters to their land,
this way things will cool down and the rest can mange and live together

and before some people strat jumping ape **** on me,
isn't that what the american offered us as solution back in 1975.. and we refused

so let us offer the other side and let them refuse

Hanna,

There is no doubt that the regional factor is hampering Lebanon's path to progress.

The Arab-Israeli conflicts, the question of Palestine, the ambitions of the super-powers in the Middle East, the scramble for oil and natural gas, and more.

But wouldn't we agree that the major problem in the country is the fact that international powers have the final call on us? It looks like they are the one who are stirring tensions in our 10452 Km2.

Our best bet is to change the political mentality in Lebanon.

The question is: how?

Regards,

Ali Arz

[Venom]

Originally Posted by hannaalsayssa

i think the saudi should come and take their supporters to their land,
this way things will cool down and the rest can mange and live together

and before some people strat jumping ape **** on me,
isn't that what the american offered us as solution back in 1975.. and we refused

so let us offer the other side and let them refuse

when was the last time u didnt mention wahabi , saudi , dhummies in ur posts


well u know the problem goes back to 1943 and before.....instead of dividing the shares among religions and sect they should have worked on a secular system from the beginning.....

Today Lebanon is not a country , it is a tribal system.....

the solution is a presidential secular system in Lebanon! in which the President is elected by the people and based on a program and vision..not based on sect or nkeyet in others...same goes for the other positions....I know am dreaming but what the hell....this country will remain like that, a failure.

[AliArz]

Originally Posted by morrison

the solution to the lebanese crisis is to have less sick sectarian bastards which belongs to all religion like some people here

Morrison,

I agree with you. This is a very big problem that we have in Lebanon.

In various ways, sectarian supremacist thoughts are rampant across the country.

The other problem is this: the inner-sect feuds.

Within the Lebanese Maronite community, for example, we can see how deeply divided people are there. It's a very dangerous situation which will cost us a bright future. Especially since the elections are coming up in 2009, and we can all smell something cooking there.

That is why I believe that our current leaders have failed to stop this mess, and the best solution is to replace the current zua'ma "leadership" with a brand new class of Lebanese public servants.

But the biggest challenge is the following...

How can we win the hearts and minds of the Lebanese people for the sake of a changed and new mentality in politics?

Looking ahead,

Ali Arz

[AliArz]

Originally Posted by Dark Angel

i think i have a better solution, and now that oil is going down, it should face less objection than when it was last proposed. my solution involves plenty of oil and a match.

burn it all to the ground, until we've got nothing left but cinders. or if that was too expensive, we can send a delegation to plea with God to resume raining down fire and sulfur, Sadom & Amora style.

as a final touch, i would strongly suggest spreading layers of salt all over the land once the burning is done, so that nothing will grow there ever again, but there are other alternatives as well, radio active elements with long half lives are a good substitute to salt though a bit more expensive.

Dark Angel,

Lol, this is an interesting fantasy that can help the super-powers depend less on Middle Eastern oil and natural gas.

The international community is influenced and shaped by these super-powers, and that's a big blunder for our side of the world since they cannot get their hands off the natural resources of the region.

But the interesting thing is this: Lebanon is free from such resources. Our only asset is human resources, and I got the feeling that destabilization in Lebanon occurred so that the unique Lebanese human resource is dispersed around the Middle East and the world.

Lebanon's richest value, its human resources, must come back to the country again. If you ask me, I think it should be a right.

It looks like the Lebanese citizens are as exploited as the oil reserves of KSA and Iraq.

Best regards,

Ali Arz

[AliArz]

Originally Posted by elias-aj

I think that people in Lebanon are generally politically informed and there is not that lack of education.

What we need is to know what do the lebanese want. They all want democracy, a real and respected state, freedom. They all want to get rid of sectarianism and of the current "services" form of society.

Still when one analyze their conduct, the less one could say is that they're not consistent... which allows us to wonder if they really want all of those things. Although 99 % of the population loves to complain about this society, the lack of state, sectarianism etc.

May be are the lebanese afraid to change their society ?

Regarding the political leaders, I always considered that the political leaders are nothing but the product of the society itself. You can't reform a country or lead a revolution without the population support.

Unfortunately, 14Th March demonstration which gave us hope, was nothing but a flash in the pan as people chose right after this huge event to keep the former politicians in charge (= keep the status quo).

Our biggest challenge is to convince people not only that the society needs to be reformed, but that they need to behave accordingly. And to make the good choices.

Elias,

Thank you for your wonderful points, as usual!

But khaye, I want to understand the following...

On Facebook, I browsed for many Lebanese political groups. Here's what I found interesting: the Lebanese political advocacy groups such as the "Secular Foundation of Lebanon", the "Lebanese who hate all politicians", the "March 14 & March 8 Unite!" and the one I established with a community of online colleagues; "Lebanese Dream", have a maximum of 300 members. On the other hand, the "Walid Jumblatt Fan Club", or the "Amine Gemayel Fan Club" has a record number of 1000 members and more.

How can we say that in politics, the Lebanese population is well informed about the choices they have for this beautiful country? Tell me in which way would a support for Michel Mouawad or Sleiman Franjieh show sign of an educated Lebanese citizenry?

The Lebanese people are perhaps the most informed and educated people on matters outside of politics. As a civil society, the Lebanese people are fantastic! It's an incredible society.

But in politics? I am not 100% sure.

I agree with you: the Lebanese "leaders" certainly are a product of it's society (when it comes to political mentality).

But how can this change?

Regards,

Ali Arz