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Let Geagea ask for a meeting, w enta ma te3tal ham!
...only if it's that simple mon ami...:-). We have allowed external forces to dictate when we can meet and what the discussion agenda would be. GMA and SG should be bold to make such a move without preset conditions from anyone.
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Judging by the results so far, 71% of voters approved of such a meeting.

Two comments:

- GMA has already decided to go ahead and meet WJ.
- Many of the voters who are in favor "today" of such a raproachment were labelling WJ "yesterday" all sort of demeaning and denegrading labels.

In the meantime, we are still at the same address, same agenda, same goals, same aspirations.... since Youhanna Maroun ..:-) so why not a full political cooperation between GMA and SG. Are you closer to WJ's recent speech on arabism (with sectarian's flavor) and the palestinian cause than that of SG's "Lebanon First"??
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Elie, You spent 4 years allying with Walid Joumblat, and you didn't achieve any progress to restore the christians' rights undertaken by Joumblat.

Samir Geagea didn't bother himself to cooperate with GMA, to find a commun solution with Joumblat.

So now just sit and watch how we'll deal with the situation, we're not talking about an alliance with the PSP, it's just about a possible understanding regarding the displaced christians.
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طريق الشام تمر بالضاحية و الرابية
Its not something to be proud of, its just the reality.

before going to Syria, Jumblat has a price to pay, and that is meeting all
opposition leaders. It started with the druze opposition, then the shiite
and now the christian opposition plus the famous speech he gave when he declared
his independence from march 14. The rest of the parties in the opposition
will accept it, regardless of their opinion. Jumblat knows that Aoun is no geagea
or amine.
well im sure they will meet but not in a church in the chouf area... jumblat have his own agenda as well!

can you tell me what does it mean to meet in a church in the chouf area and what message it would be for the Batrakiyeh?

the best thing for jumblat is to meet in baabda with aoun!
and the best meeting place for aoun is in a church in the chouf area..

maybe they will agree to meet in rabiyeh it is not so pricey as meeting in a church in the shouf area
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...only if it's that simple mon ami...:-). We have allowed external forces to dictate when we can meet and what the discussion agenda would be. GMA and SG should be bold to make such a move without preset conditions from anyone.
Elie
What For?

Just tell me what's Samir Geagea ability to solve the issue of displaced christians? law badda tshate kenet ghayyamet
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Judging by the results so far, 71% of voters approved of such a meeting.

Two comments:

- GMA has already decided to go ahead and meet WJ.
- Many of the voters who are in favor "today" of such a raproachment were labelling WJ "yesterday" all sort of demeaning and denegrading labels.

In the meantime, we are still at the same address, same agenda, same goals, same aspirations.... since Youhanna Maroun ..:-) so why not a full political cooperation between GMA and SG. Are you closer to WJ's recent speech on arabism (with sectarian's flavor) and the palestinian cause than that of SG's "Lebanon First"??
Elie
how naive are you to believe that WJ actually believe in these slogans?
did you believe that WJ is for the palestenian cause? arabism? Poor farmers?
these slogans were used by him as an excuse to break up with the jins 3atil..

as for cooperation with SG, I dont understand why would such a thing happen.
they have completely different visions(thats if SG has any).
All what he needs to do is to keep his zo3ran away from his streets and
we have absolutely no problem with him. He has his politics and we have
ours.
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As-Sharq Al-Awsat newspaper reported on Saturday that Progressive Socialist Party leader MP Walid Jumblatt refused to meet Change and Reform bloc leader MP Michel Aoun at the seat of the Maronite Archbishop in Beirut, despite a request from Aoun. Jumblatt declined the request out of respect for Maronite Patriarch Nasrallah Boutros Sfeir, the newspaper reported.

The daily stated that Jumblatt instead suggested holding the meeting in the parliament building or at Baabda under the sponsorship of President Michel Sleiman. Aoun rejected these suggestions and “insisted” on meeting Jumblatt in a Maronite church in the Chouf district, the report said.

Public Works and Transport Minister Ghazi Aridi said that the date and location of the Jumblatt-Aoun meeting are still under negotiation.

Lebanon news - NOW Lebanon -Aoun “insists” on meeting Jumblatt in a church
Amirkani, is this true?
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Just tell me what's Samir Geagea ability to solve the issue of displaced christians? law badda tshate kenet ghayyamet
As you are aware , I am from the heart of the shouff mountain and my village was affected in a serious way. Ok, I grant you that we were somewhat ineffective in dealing with the displaced situation, but I also tell you that GMA will be equally inefffective with that issue as well. I am aware of the situation on the ground in the shouff and people's williness to return...it's not all WJ's fault at this point.

Anyway, goodluck with GMA making progress on that issue....I will be the first to congratulate Tayyar if I see real progress on the ground....
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well im sure they will meet but not in a church in the chouf area... jumblat have his own agenda as well!

can you tell me what does it mean to meet in a church in the chouf area and what message it would be for the Batrakiyeh?

the best thing for jumblat is to meet in baabda with aoun!
and the best meeting place for aoun is in a church in the chouf area..

maybe they will agree to meet in rabiyeh it is not so pricey as meeting in a church in the shouf area
I am against a rapprochement with Junblat for other reasons but what's wrong with meeting in a Church?

Is it that Junblat would be too embarrassed to be brought back to the crime scene where he committed his atrocities?

Maybe this is Aoun's point anyway...

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...only if it's that simple mon ami...:-). We have allowed external forces to dictate when we can meet and what the discussion agenda would be. GMA and SG should be bold to make such a move without preset conditions from anyone.
Elie
Elie, why hide behind your finger? LF's whole political program (not to say existence) is based on attacking Aoun. Aoun didn't shave today, Aoun had lunch twice today, Aoun this and Aoun that. FPM's way is very clear to anyone who wants to see. Let Geagea free himself from his follow up policies and then he can be bold enough to make such a move without preset conditions from anyone.

I hope you won't answer me that GMA should free himself from Syria and Hizballa, because deep down you must know that GMA doesn't get his legitimacy from anyone but his supporters, and if you really believe it, then my friend there is absolutely no point even to think about such a meeting.
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first : GMA can meet with who ever he wants no problem with that , but , he does not have to trust all the people he meet specialy people like jumblat who's history is full of corruption , disgrace , backstabbing and dirty games .

second : no one should impose on GMA his conditions . meeting with jumblat if it happen will be like any other relation WJ had in the past ( a matter of survival in a new political era he will meet and sleep with the devil himself to save his A$$) thats why GMA must be very carefull with this lunatic yoyo, he should impose his conditions and demands get them done as soon as possible before wj changes the direction of his political dish once again !!

personaly i do not trust WJ i do not respect him and i do not like to see him shacking his dirty hand with GMA . he is a lebanese leader/warlord (unfortunatly) and we have to make the best to bring stability to this country but i hope that GMA will not make any conssessions this time .
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