Why on earth i have to pay the price of a cause i don't believe in? ... I don't want to delete israel from the map, I want to be like other arabs who signed peace with Israel ...
Fine. Go to the Israeli's then, tell them you want to sign a peace treaty, and beg them not to bomb you the next time they attack Lebanon. Lets see where that gets you.
If this is your choice, then so be it. But as of today, the Lebanese state - not just Hezbollah - considers Israel its enemy and is still officially at war with Israel. Direct contact with the Israeli regime, according to Lebanese law, is treason. Hezbollah, according to the the ministerial statements of past successive governments, has the right to defend the country. You want to change all this? Great, go run for public office and see how far you get.
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Hezbollah is nothing but a branch of the Khomeini regime in Iran. Everybody witnessed how that regime treat its people ! Now its clearer to me how Hezbollah would treat people who oppose him and especially those in the South !
Think what you want. Demonize Hezbollah till you roll over and die. Without giving legitimacy to your perversion of reality though, if you really believe what you say, then ask yourself this: Why is it that, according to you, "Hezbollah is nothing but a branch of the Khomeini regime in Iran", and yet commands the loyalty of some 96% of Lebanon's Shia, and either admiration, respect, or recognition from an overwhelming majority of the Lebanese people?
There is, of course, a reason for this - and it doesn't just have to do with what Hezbollah represents. It has to do with what people like you represent, the reality and nature of the alternative that you suggest, your attitude towards Lebanese Shi'as in particular, and your idea and vision of the Lebanese entity in general.
The unfortunate part for you is that you will never change this attitude, and everything that you dream of and represent will aspire to nothing but vulgar idolatry denounced by the wise, and your ilk are destined to become reviled relics of a dark and despondent age in Lebanese history. That which you seek, by your means and your methods, will never come to fruition.
The US and Mexico have peace. Yet both countries have an army and are ready for war if that is required. Why do you want lebanon to be a weak country and you want peace with an enemy?
You must be the one whose brainwashed not the south. The south ashraf minnak w min yali bifakir mitlak.
Whoever said we want lebanon to be weak without an army ???
we just want a real lebanese army, under the government orders, not a hybrid ISLAMIC resistance/militia/army.
i want lebanon to be strong, with a strong army, and at peace with all of its neighbors, and without relinquishing our rights in water and land
"Ashraf" is a relative term
The south and its people are suffering because someone choose to fight for the palistians/syrian/Iranian
how sad ...
Why on earth i have to pay the price of a cause i don't believe in?
Fighting Israel is not my religious duty !
... I don't want to delete israel from the map, I want to be like other arabs who signed peace with Israel ...
Hassan Nasrallah spoke like he represented all the Lebanese ! i hope he won't mess with israel in the future and destroy Lebanon again ..
Why you cant accept History and stop living in clouds. Israel exist and will keep on existing. We must do like other arabs and sign peace with Israel.
Why the Lebanese people have to pay the blood and the economic price of fighting Israel while other arabs have touristic exchange programs with Israel ?
Hezbollah is nothing but a branch of the Khomeini regime in Iran. Everybody witnessed how that regime treat its people ! Now its clearer to me how Hezbollah would treat people who oppose him and especially those in the South !
In 2006, it was a nightmare to live the war. The human casualties, the infrastructure, the bridges, ... I don't want this to happen again !
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You dont need to pay the price of anything. you can join the rest of the shurafa tanning their toes and asses while Lebanon is under attack.
Why should you care when rafada and Iranians are dying - they have no place in Lebanon anyway.
Why don't you join them in the next war that they've planned and help eliminate the majoos iranian existence in Lebanon?
Mess with "israel" ? Its fruitloop wanabe's like yourself sitting behind their computer that heckle and try and mock the lions of the resistance who shed their blood and souls to defend the land of the cedar from an "israeli" war of imposed destruction that make me say TFEH 3ala hek sha3eb.
Allah ye7mi wu yensor aslak ya Sayyed Hassan.
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Fine. Go to the Israeli's then, tell them you want to sign a peace treaty, and beg them not to bomb you the next time they attack Lebanon. Lets see where that gets you.
If this is your choice, then so be it. But as of today, the Lebanese state - not just Hezbollah - considers Israel its enemy and is still officially at war with Israel. Direct contact with the Israeli regime, according to Lebanese law, is treason. Hezbollah, according to the the ministerial statements of past successive governments, has the right to defend the country. You want to change all this? Great, go run for public office and see how far you get.
Think what you want. Demonize Hezbollah till you roll over and die. Without giving legitimacy to your perversion of reality though, if you really believe what you say, then ask yourself this: Why is it that, according to you, "Hezbollah is nothing but a branch of the Khomeini regime in Iran", and yet commands the loyalty of some 96% of Lebanon's Shia, and either admiration, respect, or recognition from an overwhelming majority of the Lebanese people?
There is, of course, a reason for this - and it doesn't just have to do with what Hezbollah represents. It has to do with what people like you represent, the reality and nature of the alternative that you suggest, your attitude towards Lebanese Shi'as in particular, and your idea and vision of the Lebanese entity in general.
The unfortunate part for you is that you will never change this attitude, and everything that you dream of and represent will aspire to nothing but vulgar idolatry denounced by the wise, and your ilk are destined to become reviled relics of a dark and despondent age in Lebanese history. That which you seek, by your means and your methods, will never come to fruition.
Khomaini's way !! You make me a traitor just because i have another point of view ...
If you want to delete Israel from the map, just do it from Iran, Syria, Jordan or Egypt ... Enough using the Lebanese to fight religious wars. I repeat, not all Lebanese have the religious duty to delete Israel from the map.
We do not need to beg Israel not to attack us. Egypt, Jordan have touristic exchange programs with Israel and they do not beg Israel !
The Shia in the south are behind Hezbollah for pure religious reasons ! Not to mention the services offered by Iran through hezbollah to the people in the South (Schools, Hospitals, ...)
Why on earth Syria is allowed to have negociations with Israel ?
Anyway, be sure that history will always go forward ... and people living in the dark ages will be defeated !
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Khomaini's way !! You make me a traitor just because i have another point of view ...
If you want to delete Israel from the map, just do it from Iran, Syria, Jordan or Egypt ... Enough using the Lebanese to fight religious wars. I repeat, not all Lebanese have the religious duty to delete Israel from the map.
We do not need to beg Israel not to attack us. Egypt, Jordan have touristic exchange programs with Israel and they do not beg Israel !
The Shia in the south are behind Hezbollah for pure religious reasons ! Not to mention the services offered by Iran through hezbollah to the people in the South (Schools, Hospitals, ...)
Why on earth Syria is allowed to have negociations with Israel ?
Anyway, be sure that history will always go forward ... and people living in the dark ages will be defeated !
I'm having trouble deciding if your self-victimization is due to low self-esteem or the result of some intrinsic tendency to misunderstand simple written English on your part.
I didn't make you into a traitor because you have another point of view. In fact, I didn't make you anything. If you consider yourself to be a traitor for some reason, that is your problem, but don't attribute it to me. I simply recounted the state's official position, and pointed out that if you have another point of view, then run for public office and change the law, and we will see how far you get. Was that so difficult to understand?
In any case, "deleting Israel from the map" is not anyone's religious duty, whether they are Shi'a or not, and Hezbollah isn't suggesting that it is. Second, both Jordan and Egypt represent repressive regimes, in power against the will of their own people, who are subservient to Israeli interests even as their own people are opposed to their policies towards Israel. Jordanian and Egyptian citizens don't even have the option of begging in order to attain their rights and political freedoms. They are blind, deaf, dumb, vulgar masses, repressed and dormant. We in Lebanon refuse to be rendered as such, and we refuse the Israeli notion of "peace", and Israel refuses our notion of peace. Third, the people of the South are not behind Hezbollah for purely religious reasons. Fourth, Syria isn't Lebanon. Let Syria do what Syria wants, and we in Lebanon aren't bound by what Syria does.
Anyway, be sure that history will always go forward ... and people living in the dark ages will be defeated !
In the convoluted helical progression of dialectic discourse that history represents, there are many sides. It is better to be on the right side of history at great risk and sacrifice, than to be history's bitch.
I'm having trouble deciding if your self-victimization is due to low self-esteem or the result of some intrinsic tendency to misunderstand simple written English on your part.
I didn't make you into a traitor because you have another point of view. In fact, I didn't make you anything. If you consider yourself to be a traitor for some reason, that is your problem, but don't attribute it to me. I simply recounted the state's official position, and pointed out that if you have another point of view, then run for public office and change the law, and we will see how far you get. Was that so difficult to understand?
In any case, "deleting Israel from the map" is not anyone's religious duty, whether they are Shi'a or not, and Hezbollah isn't suggesting that it is. Second, both Jordan and Egypt represent repressive regimes, in power against the will of their own people, who are subservient to Israeli interests even as their own people are opposed to their policies towards Israel. Jordanian and Egyptian citizens don't even have the option of begging in order to attain their rights and political freedoms. They are blind, deaf, dumb, vulgar masses, repressed and dormant. We in Lebanon refuse to be rendered as such, and we refuse the Israeli notion of "peace", and Israel refuses our notion of peace. Third, the people of the South are not behind Hezbollah for purely religious reasons. Fourth, Syria isn't Lebanon. Let Syria do what Syria wants, and we in Lebanon aren't bound by what Syria does.
The gov. official position toward Israel are the the result of the civil war and the defeat of the Right by some Palestinians ,Islamic militant that came from all over the arab world (Syria, Lybia, ...) and others. Not to mention the 50 years of brainwashing of Lebanese by Israelophobic media.
If you live in a free society, you would go and say whatever you want. But in lebanon, you will be consodered a traitor and some religious cleric will legitimise your death .. and probably I will end up targeted the next day by a bomb under your car ! NO THANKS ... Khomaini like regime !!
The right side of History?
Khomaini like regime is on the right side of History? I hope you were on planet earth few weeks and realized how this regime treat its people.
Two people living in the past can't see the right side of History:
- Leftist living in the 70's and 80's
- Salladin army living in the dark ages
You realy are stupid or something ?
The more infrastucture we loose, the more civilian lebanese dies, the more DEVINE the victory will become.
:)
To the rest, please let me know why the few prisonners released are worth more than the 1200+ who died ?
I don't know what school of thought you belong to, but morally - you have no concept of dignity. Firstly, Sayyed Hassan(ha) said that had he known "israel" was to initiate a war of the magnitude of 2006, he would not have ordered the operation.
And yes - when the whole world is against you - even some nehse7 vermin scum who are "lebanese" - and you fight with your blood, and shed the lives of those dearest to you in the face of a war THAT HAS BEEN PLANNED/PREMEDITATED/EXECUTED by "israel" and the free divine world of urs - when the whole world gives the green light for "israel" to demolish everything in Lebanon to weaken the morale and belief of the people, yet you see the people of the resistance rise up like lions and fight with their teeth and skin - you're **** right its more divine.
e.kiddy, Lebanon has a group of people that will always fight in the spirit of Karbala - something you will never comprehend. The spirit of Ashoura to the people of the resistance is the beat in their heart, and is the oxygen of their existence. This group of people is here to stay. And this group of people will do whatever it takes to uphold its dignity.
You either join them in building this country into one that upholds 3ezzi wu karaameh - or you dont. But not in your wildest dreams will this group disappear - theyre here to stay.
16th August 2009
