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Violation of the MOU

The latest on Hezbollah operating outside Lebanon and outside the context of liberating Shebaa...

Hizbullah Cell to be Tried by Egypt Security Court

Twenty-six men accused of plotting attacks on behalf of Hizbullah on tourist resorts and on ships in the Suez Canal will go on trial in an Egyptian security court on Sunday.

The suspects -- two Lebanese, five Palestinians and 19 Egyptians -- face charges of "conspiracy to murder, spying for a foreign organization with the intent of conducting terrorist attacks and weapons possession."
Four more accused are on the run and will be tried in absentia, including Lebanese alleged mastermind Mohammed Qublan who is believed to have left Egypt.

Defense lawyer Abdel Moneim Abdel Maqsud told AFP that some of the defendants had confessed to planning attacks against Israelis.

"Those whose names appear on the list, including number two suspect Lebanese Mohammed Yusuf Ahmed Mansur known as Sami Shihab, told prosecutors during questioning that they initially planned attacks against Israeli tourists in Sinai in response to the killing of (Hizbullah leader) Imad Mughniyeh, but that orders came from Hizbullah leadership banning such activities," he said.

Mughniyeh, a Hizbullah commander, was killed by a car bombing in Damascus in a February 2008 attack that was blamed on but denied by Israel.

Hizbullah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah admitted in April that Shihab was a Hizbullah agent tasked with smuggling weapons to militants into the Gaza Strip.

The arrests led to a war of words between Sunni Egypt and Hizbullah's Shiite Iranian backers, with Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit accusing Iran of using Hizbullah to gain a foothold in Egypt.

The defendants said that their main goal was to help Palestinians in Gaza, Maqsud said.

Egyptian security forces had said that five of the accused in what is being called the "Hizbullah cell case" belonged to the banned Muslim Brotherhood but that they had left the organization in recent years.

In an interview aired on Monday by the U.S. television network CBS, Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak claimed that the Brotherhood had contacts with Hizbullah and Hamas.

"They have contacts with Hamas. They have contacts with Hizbullah. These are well-known and they have contacts with many organizations," he said, but added: "As long as they do not commit any terrorist crimes, I don't care."

Hizbullah, formed after Israel occupied Lebanon in 1982, has limited its attacks in the Middle East to Israel and Lebanon, from which Israel withdrew in 2000.

Israel and Hizbullah fought a 33-day war in the summer of 2006 that resulted in the deaths of more than 1,200 Lebanese civilians, a third of them children, as well as 160 Israelis, mostly soldiers.

State security courts were set up under Egypt's emergency laws which have been in place since 1981. Their verdicts are final.(AFP)


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Joseph, you can at least wait for the final verdict of the egyptian court...And by the way, there is no "fair trial" in Egypt.
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joseph, you can at least wait for the final verdict of the egyptian court...and by the way, there is no "fair trial" in egypt.
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Joseph, you can at least wait for the final verdict of the egyptian court...And by the way, there is no "fair trial" in Egypt.
elias-aj, no need to wait for the court or worry about its fairness. SHN already admitted publicly to a good portion of what he is being accused of. Enough to prove his violation of your MOU.
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abo el zouz, I'll be very straight forward as usual. Hizbolla doesnt care about

liberating Jerusalem from the Israelis, simply because the new palestenian

king would not welcome a black turban cleric there. The biggest enemy of

Hizbolla is the sunni regime beasts in the arab world who prosecuted the

shi3a for thousands of years in this area, and never hesitated to help the israelis kill

them as they did in July war. We stood by them when they were weak

and getting backstabbed by the supposedly brothers in islam during the

July war so they will support us ila yawm el deen to come to power , implement

our project and preserve our existence. Its very simple abo el zooz.
So Samer what you are saying is that much of the MOU's content didn't matter, and there was another hidden agenda behind it?
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So Samer what you are saying is that much of the MOU's content didn't matter, and there was another hidden agenda behind it?
its my own personal analysis. Nothing is hidden abou Aoun defeating Jumblat
and Hariris project that wanted to use us as fuel to fight the Shi3a and the Alawite
regime in Syria.

They want to fight Hizbolla because the Saudis and Americans ordered
them to do so, yalla for once let the druze and the sunna pay the price
for it. The sunna never had a problem with Syria until the regime became
Alawite, before that their slogan was "trablos el sham", shall I remind you
how Saeb Salem, Rachid Karame
and the Mufti rejected diplomatic relations with Syria in the 50's?

in politics strategic goals come first and techniques second. I told you in
another thread how the alliance is strategic and how
I view it. Abo el Zouz, what institutions and what country are you talking
about? Do you expect that Hizballa gives up its arms to the Sunni ruled country?
Do you expect them to become another prosecuted clan similar to the one in KSA?
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its my own personal analysis. Nothing is hidden abou Aoun defeating Jumblat
and Hariris project that wanted to use us as fuel to fight the Shi3a and the Alawite
regime in Syria.

They want to fight Hizbolla because the Saudis and Americans ordered
them to do so, yalla for once let the druze and the sunna pay the price
for it. The sunna never had a problem with Syria until the regime became
Alawite, before that their slogan was "trablos el sham", shall I remind you
how Saeb Salem, Rachid Karame
and the Mufti rejected diplomatic relations with Syria in the 50's?

in politics strategic goals come first and techniques second. I told you in
another thread how the alliance is strategic and how
I view it. Abo el Zouz, what institutions and what country are you talking
about? Do you expect that Hizballa gives up its arms to the Sunni ruled country?
Do you expect them to become another prosecuted clan similar to the one in KSA?
Thank you for the candid reply. If this is indeed the position and strategy then FPM and FPM officials including GMA should articulate it clearly through its media instead of trying to camouflage it with BS unbelievable messages and positions that actually weaken them instead of making them stronger. After all FPM claims that its appeal comes from straight talk...

I would argue though that this is a divisive position and a rather sectarian one. It is not the nationalistic and nation building position that FPM positions itself as the champion of.
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Thank you for the candid reply. If this is indeed the position and strategy then FPM and FPM officials including GMA should articulate it clearly through its media instead of trying to camouflage it with BS unbelievable messages and positions that actually weakens them instead of making them stronger. After all FPM claims that its appeal comes from straight talk...
w inti shou khassak bi what GMA and FPM shoulds and shouldnts ...

This is how we want to run things .. we are happy like that
give your vote away and spare us your repeated boring attacks
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w inti shou khassak bi what GMA and FPM shoulds and shouldnts ...

This is how we want to run things .. we are happy like that
give your vote away and spare us your repeated boring attacks
You ask me to vote for you during elections... This is khassi...
Besides this is an open political forum, is it not!!?
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