SHN Speech on The 9th Memorial of South Lebanon's Liberation

[yaraman]

Originally Posted by Youchka

First, to you who obviosuly is used to the concept master/slave, yes no doubt you can't understand the relation between both parties or both men, so do not talk about something you ignore.

Second, SHN explained that the May 7 events happened as a reaction to what was being prepared, something much bigger. Now if you do not want to understand this either, don't, live in fear of HA, live in constant hatred for the other, and live happily.

Regarding the "the international community can accuse.... but if Lebanese dare we start a civil war", sorry did not get where he said that or implied it, but hey, my analysis skills do not come close to yours so I won't even try to understand.

Finally, he did not mix anything. A speech can't be more organized and more moutassalssel than this. But again your pre-conceived opinion keeps you from actually understanding anything at all.

Why do you even bother listening to him anyways, since whatever he would say, you will interpret it 3ala zaw'ak and attack him no matter what? Instead, go hide underneath your bed, this is the best you can do, stay scared of the other in your country, remain hateful, keep your mistrust and this is how you will build the country (from underneath your bed).

I can't have a better answer. thanks Youchka

[Learned]

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

My deductions were as follows:

Master Hassan Nisrallah has a Loyal General Aoun.
'Aoun lets us do whatever we want to do, and we will support him in the elections and by not attacking the christians as we did in may 7 to the others'.The international community can accuse hizbullah all they like, but if the Lebanese dare, we will start a civil war'.

Everything else is his typical blah blah blah

Mixing his religion with domestic politics with geopolitics, with emphasising the threat of Israel, with emphasising Hizbullahs military might etc.

I must say, he is a great leader of his mini islamic republic, but his irony and inimidation is very hard to swollow by those who just wanna live in peace.

I must say, there's another quaintly divisive little post!

Your comments immediately take me back to the joint interview between GMA and SHN on OTV in early 2008. Just observing the manner of both men in that setting, it was clear that there is admiration and mutual respect between the two leaders. GMA is now 74 years old, whereas SHN is a mere 48, so there is an entire generational gap between them, and what the interview revealed in terms of their relationship reflects that generational gap. GMA regards SHN as a father would regard a son whose position is that of Nasrallah's position: with pride and admiration. You could see it in GMA's eyes when he was talking and looking at Nasrallah. And SHN regards GMA as a paternal figure of sorts, whom he contends with as his equal in the practical sense since both men are leaders of popular political parties, but whom he also respects and admires not just as his elder, but as a true statesman "bi7ajm dawlah" of historic caliber. Being a gifted orator, you can hear it in the quiver in his voice when he talks about GMA, whether it is in the setting of a calm interview or a sermon to a crowd.


Ok, I just read what I wrote and it sounds emotional, but it wasn't meant to be. Just a reflective rant on how I understand the relationship between the two men....

[Ashrafieh_LF]

Originally Posted by Observer

One of the most positive speeches by Nasrullah. The loyalist do not want that. They want something to capitalize on to agitate people.

The article posted by elaph about Hariri is very significant. read it well and you will understand why Hariri is so scared to lose election. The one who wrote the article is the manager of elaph and one of the closest to the ruling family.

He definitely felt the backlash from his "May 7 yawm majid" speech and had to come up with something more elections friendly. Too little too late...

[Observer]

Originally Posted by ashrafieh_lf

he definitely felt the backlash from his "may 7 yawm majid" speech and had to come up with something more elections friendly. Too little too late...

شو رايك تمسك يد صاحبك غريغ دايفس وتتمشو على الكورنيش و تروحو عن بعض؟

ولك شو بدك؟ يقتلو بعض؟ اذا السنة و الشيعة دبكوها حرب لح يروحو الموارنة في لبنان سلاطة بالنص. وعى بقا انت وشلة الحقد القواتية

[josein]

Originally Posted by Observer

One of the most positive speeches by Nasrullah. The loyalist do not want that. They want something to capitalize on to agitate people.

The article posted by elaph about Hariri is very significant. read it well and you will understand why Hariri is so scared to lose election. The one who wrote the article is the manager of elaph and one of the closest to the ruling family.

Man i am glad we always see the same thing, i was reading that article last night, even, i though to open a thread about it but my sleep was stronger than SH, anyway i saw it like a wake up call to SH, but it is obvious that the man is not fulfilling not even 5% of his father space and it is understandable if the Saudi want a more efficient servant.

[josein]

Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_LF

He definitely felt the backlash from his "May 7 yawm majid" speech and had to come up with something more elections friendly. Too little too late...

loooooooooool man, you guys are so funny, really hilarious, let s agree with you, and say SHN waited one week to correct a mistake or a bad speech,, what do u say about you &akim who waited 30 years to half apologize about his crime,, wasn't that toooooooo little tooooooooooooooooooooo late .

[HooKs]

Originally Posted by Eddy Free

Who is he talking about?

Most probably its the rattlesnake marwan 7a2oud 7mede.. There were two filthy creepy creatures who said such a thing, him and samir simson frangieh.

[Venom]

3anjad great speech!

no wonder the Christians of Hariri and Jumblat didn't like it, they are used to be called as Jenes 3atel and not great leaders...

[Salome]

Originally Posted by Venom

3anjad great speech!

no wonder the Christians of Hariri and Jumblat didn't like it...

They should be jealous and frustrated now that they have missed the train. But they still cover it up with self-deceit.

[SeekNirvana]

Originally Posted by Venom

3anjad great speech!

I think we should play a game.
A week before a speech for Nasrallah, we should open a thread for loyalists to post what they would consider a realistically good speech.

I think this is the first time since the MoU, Nasrallah is actually pushing in the right direction. Good opening of channels with Jumblat and Hariri. More of this and less chop-chop is a good way forward.