SHN meeting Ahmadi Najad in Damascus

[superduper703]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

that's the problem: preconceived ideas that can never be undone, no matter what proofs you are given

Proof? Such as SHN visiting Syria and meeting with Ahmadinejad?

[3asheq Beirut]

Not everytime someone meets with a foreign official it means that they are selling their country. Hassan Nasrallah has never sold Lebanon to anyone and has done nothing but defend Lebanon against Israeli attacks, and this is the nature of his relationship with Iran.

When meetings with foreign officials take place, the important thing to determine is the capacity in which our representatives are meeting those officials. The difference between meetings held between Hassan Nasrallah and Ahmadinejad on the one hand, and meetings held between Feb 14 officials and Americans and Europeans on the other hand is that the Feb 14 politicians go to those meetings from a position of servitude. For this reason we saw that even while American bombs were being used to kill our children Feb 14 politicians were not only meeting with Condoleezza Rice, but were hugging and kissing her.

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by superduper703

Proof? Such as SHN visiting Syria and meeting with Ahmadinejad?

didn't sanioura go and visit Syria and met with Syrian officials? is he a Syrian lackey now?
(If you want my answer he is a Syrian lackey, he was the longest serving finance minister under Syrian tutelage)
Maybe HA is French lackey too because HA was in St Clos

[superduper703]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

didn't sanioura go and visit Syria and met with Syrian officials? is he a Syrian lackey now?
(If you want my answer he is a Syrian lackey, he was the longest serving finance minister under Syrian tutelage)

Who's defending Saniora? And I have no problem when a government official visits Syria, Iran, France, etc., if it's on government business. Example: I have a problem with Berri visiting Syria in a capacity other than Speaker of Parliament.

Posters keep telling me to keep FPM out of HA's business. But, in the meantime, they keep defending SHN and HA's business. Can you make sense of it all?

[Chief]

I am gonna play the devils advocate over here and ask: Isnt this similar to bush/hariri meeting?

Why does the loyalists have the right to crawl to foreign leaders in foreign countries while HN can not.

[superduper703]

Originally Posted by vegojimbo

by ur notion, all the loyalists are not serving the higher interest of Lebanon bc they are allies of the US, and therefore they "indirectly" allies with Israel.

Really top notch argument.

I hope u don't tell me that's a totally different issue.

PS: don't u just love this 'indirectly" approach?

I already told you that I am not defending the loyalists. But for the sake of your post, I'll say this: The State can be allied with whoever it wants. The opposition's role is to oppose such an alliance within the confines of Parliament and within the borders of the State. Not to go behind the State's back and seek support from its enemy. There's a term for that: HIGH TREASON.

[Disease]

what the hell is happening to you people ?? what is all this noise for ? Saniora meets and takes orders from Rice each couple of months and no one shouts !

anyway Narallah will be on Aljazeera TV on Monday at 20:00 let's wait and check

[vegojimbo]

Originally Posted by Chief

I am gonna play the devils advocate over here and ask: Isnt this similar to bush/hariri meeting?

Why does the loyalists have the right to crawl to foreign leaders in foreign countries while HN can not.

bc "fi ness bsamneh w fi ness bzet".

And to add, they are hypocrits.


Still, IMO, HN's meeting was wrong and shouldn't have happened.

[Zouxi]

DAMASCUS (Reuters) - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad met Syrian President Bashar al-Assad on Thursday and pledged to strengthen the alliance between their countries, which are both under U.S.-led pressure.
Ahmadinejad also met Hezbollah's leader Hassan Nasrallah in the Syrian capital. The backing Syria and Iran give to the Lebanese Shi'ite movement is the lynchpin of their alliance.

A joint communique issued after Ahmadinejad met Assad said the two leaders were "comfortable with the fine way ties between Syria and Iran were going and careful to continue cooperation in all fields."

"The relation with Syria is progressing daily and in every field and along all lines," Ahmadinejad told reporters.

Assad said: "This visit takes on an added importance with the circumstances changing rapidly in the region. The Iranian-Syrian relation is a long-term one."

The secular government in Damascus has been reinforcing links with the Islamic Republic as the two countries try to counter U.S.-led efforts to isolate them.

Both support Hezbollah as well as Hamas and have links to parties in Iraq, and both have been accused by the United States of sponsoring terrorism, charges Damascus and Tehran deny.

"TACTICAL" ALLIANCE

Ahmadinejad, championing Iran's nuclear program despite U.N. sanctions, also planned to met Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal and members of the Palestinian group's politburo-in-exile in Syria during his one-day visit.

"Ahmadinejad promised to keep up the support for the Palestinian people, Hamas and the efforts to initiate a Palestinian dialogue after the latest events in Gaza," senior Hamas official Izzat al-Rishq told Reuters.

Although Syria's isolation by the West has eased in recent months, Damascus has shown no signs of curbing its ties with Tehran as Israel and its chief ally Washington demand.

The United States considers Hezbollah a terrorist group but Damascus and Tehran regard it as a resistance movement. Links between Lebanon's large Shi'ite community and Iran go back centuries.

Syrian officials have privately described as "tactical" their alliance, which dates from 1979, when Syria, unlike the rest of the Arab world, was quick to establish ties with the clerical government in Iran after the Islamic Revolution and backed Iran during its 1980-88 war with Iraq.

Israel has demanded that Damascus cut ties with Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas before accepting Syria's calls for peace talks. Damascus rejects this, saying Israeli occupation of Arab lands is behind the region's ills.

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by LEBORANGE

:ANB نقلاً عن
الرئيس الإيراني احمد نجاد يجتمع في هذه الأثناء بأمين عام حزب الله السيّد حسن نصر الله في دمشق

tayyar.org / ANB

I hope SHN brings back with him loads of anti-aircraft missiles.......