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Bottom line, if Hezbollah can break the rules to fight Israel and free the terrorists from Israeli jails then why can't the same be done for the prisoners in Syria? Breaking the rules for this one duty would be just a drop in the bucket.
than plz don't preach to us the "State" notion nor try to teach us about morality.

And I was right, u are defending the gov's mishap in the file by dumping the blame on HA and all lebanese pro-syrians although they legally have no obligation.

Now morally that's another matter.
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Interesting that you should think this.

From the Constitution of Lebanon

The President does not need permission from anyone to discuss international affairs. It is extremely doubtful that the PM or anyone else in Lebanon would have an objection to Lebanese Prisoners returning to Lebanon.
it's not about "extremely doubtful".
but this clause was bypassed when the IT was discussed in the gov and the president was left out of it. And yet u neglected it during the discussions about that subject.

And u saw that the PM is needed here in article 52. the president can do nothing on his own. however the gov has full obligation to study the file.

by the way, article 52 talks about treaties. the prisoners file is not a treaty.

to add, Siniora stated at the round table that he is taking care of the file personally. nothing so far.
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The President - more than any other Government Political figure in Lebanon is the correct person to be involved with International Affairs.
what does the ambassador appointment clause have to do with it? comparing apples to oranges?


GMA once asked the gov to officially designate him as negociator in the file and that he would be ready to go visit Syria, but only on a official mission. the answer came with a BIG NO.
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for HA - only the Prisoners held by Israel are of any concern
for Lahoud - does he really care about any Lebanese? in or out of the country
for Berri - same thing
what about the gov? why didn't it do nothing about it?
Way to go in being bias and avoiding to mention the gov in sharing the blame which it takes fully.

not HA nor berri nor Lahoud have an official position to discuss this file. the gov has already took over it.
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I won't discuss anyone else, but everyone accepts that the above 3 are allies with Syria and it is only reasonable that they have the best chance of bringing these poor Prisoners back home .... if they only cared.
bias to the max once again. the file is in the hands of the gov. what has it done about it? nothing, notto, niette.
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Abou sandal; I know that the government is responsible for our prisioners in syria..But we can't deny that it's hypocrisy from SHN when he visit syria and don't ask or say one word about our prisioners...
SHN should ask about the lebanese prisioners in syria with the same way he ask about the prisioners in israel...
The prisioners in israel are not more important from our prisioners in syria...
Of course you are right and i agree with you 100%.

But i don't agree with the presomption that SHN did nothing about it ,

Then with the presomption that he is responsible for anything,at the first place,then if Syria don't release them,

All this used in a way by some,(i definetly don't mean you),to serve them,

just as a pretext to attack him.

We are all concerned and responsible,each within the limits of his powers.

But the real legally responsible here,is none but the governement itself.

Exactly like Vegojimbo put it at the first place.
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