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Well good thing he admitted receiving money from Iran because it explains a lot.
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I watched it , and the way Sheikh Maher Hammoud spoke is very low and used personal attacks. Moreover , all what he used is accusations and his personal opinions , and in many parts he didn't even let Sheikh Ali Ammar reply , by raising his voice and using low level trash talk. after all that , he admitted taking money from Iran , sooo pretty obvious the conclusion.
Its a shame from a sheikh to act like that.
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Wa ni3ma el reference.
Keep it up with referring to Sheikh Maher Hammoud and Fathi Yakan, then come and talk about terrorism and religious extremism
can you elaborate please ?
you can listen to someone and appreciate what he says without fully agreeing with his program
are we human beings with minds to listen and assess or just partisans who refuse everything that's not with your party ?
second thing : I don't really know the sheikh, are you insinuating he's somehow related to terrorist acts ?
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Well good thing he admitted receiving money from Iran because it explains a lot.
Balla shou!? Ma All the Lebanese "Salafi extremist" militias were backed by Iran during the civil-war, those who were defending the Muslims in the north were backed by Iran and so are some of the Others in west beirut. Sarlon shi 40 yrs 3am yed3amouna what do we do? we refuse them? And the Fact that he admitted it without a second thought proves his honesty, he would have hid it if he was a liar like all other politicians hide this sort of thing.
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I watched it , and the way Sheikh Maher Hammoud spoke is very low and used personal attacks. Moreover , all what he used is accusations and his personal opinions , and in many parts he didn't even let Sheikh Ali Ammar reply , by raising his voice and using low level trash talk. after all that , he admitted taking money from Iran , sooo pretty obvious the conclusion.
Its a shame from a sheikh to act like that.
What personal attacks? Ali shiekh Ammar was talking loudly and no one was able to stop him It's the exact opposite of what you say, But the Stupidities continued so he got angry at the end after almost 15 minutes of listening to that moron.

I Dare you to get me sheikhs as Educated and informed as Fathi Yakhan or Hachem Minkara or Faysal Mawlawi or Saad Chaaban or Mou'utassem al Baghdadi or Maher Hammoud or Hassan Khaled or others... Which religious men do you follow? The Anti-Resistance ones? What books have they wrote? what have they contributed to the History of the Lebanese Resistance? How did they get to thier Positions in the first place? weren't Most of them assigned after during the period of the Syrians/Hariri?
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Balla shou!? Ma All the Lebanese "Salafi extremist" militias were backed by Iran during the civil-war, those who were defending the Muslims in the north were backed by Iran and so are some of the Others in west beirut. Sarlon shi 40 yrs 3am yed3amouna what do we do? we refuse them? And the Fact that he admitted it without a second thought proves his honesty, he would have hid it if he was a liar like all other politicians hide this sort of thing.
That's true! growing in tripoli during the reign of Tawheed Al islami and Al-Jamaa too, one could clearly see the iranian factor all over tripoli. From Pictures of Khoumeyni everywhere to logistic support for tawheed members. Even, these movements were siding with Iran during Iraq-iran war and all their speeches were oriented toward praising Iran and victory over Iraq prayers. Nowaday few left with such view, Twaheed, Yakan, and minkara. the rest moved to Saudi camp!
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What personal attacks? Ali shiekh Ammar was talking loudly and no one was able to stop him It's the exact opposite of what you say, But the Stupidities continued so he got angry at the end after almost 15 minutes of listening to that moron.

I Dare you to get me sheikhs as Educated and informed as Fathi Yakhan or Hachem Minkara or Faysal Mawlawi or Saad Chaaban or Mou'utassem al Baghdadi or Maher Hammoud or Hassan Khaled or others... Which religious men do you follow? The Anti-Resistance ones? What books have they wrote? what have they contributed to the History of the Lebanese Resistance? How did they get to thier Positions in the first place? weren't Most of them assigned after during the period of the Syrians/Hariri?
All what he have done ( Maher Hammoud ) is ylef w ydour around that Jama3a Islemiye are controlled by FM. that's what he wanted to say briefly. still with no proof.

"Which religious men do you follow?" I don't follow specific religious men , ma b2alled 7ada ana , sho mitl l shi3a :D ... marja3eyetna l Quran wel sunna w dar l fatwa kela.
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All what he have done ( Maher Hammoud ) is ylef w ydour around that Jama3a Islemiye are controlled by FM. that's what he wanted to say briefly. still with no proof.

"Which religious men do you follow?" I don't follow specific religious men , ma b2alled 7ada ana , sho mitl l shi3a :D ... marja3eyetna l Quran wel sunna w dar l fatwa kela.
No he Said that The Political Decision is being affcted by FM for Non-Religious Political reasons and because the Jama3a Is acting like a narrow minded Party that seeks only a seat in parliament at the expence of thier religion and they have disregarded the opinions of the Previous head of Jama3a and have taken sides with FM against the resistance and are dragging all the other institutions and all the young members of the Jama3awith them into this mess, HE TOLD THEM IF UR A JAMA3A THEN ACT LIKE ONE. And I'm not telling you to follow anyone specific But the Person who was assigned in Dar'ul Ifta'a Which you claim to follow that same person who was assigned by Hariri/Syria without SHURA!!! Doesn't that make you a Shiite? La Mufti Ba3ed Hassan Khaled!!! ur just kidding urselves by following employees of Hariri and BTW what Sheikh Maher said is nothing new that is common knowlege That the Jama3a is only seeking seats at the expense of religion Did you know that they were willing to ally with the christians in Tripoli for electoral purposes? HOW DOES THAT MAKE THEM A MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD!? and By Supporting a Tribunal of Zionists How Does that Make them a Muslim brotherhood!? and by Complementing Pierre gemayel and contributing in his Janaza HOW DOES THAT MAKE THEM A MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD!? and by Complementing Jubran Tweini and describing him as martyr or hero or whatever HOW DOES THAT MAKE THEM A MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD!? and by Attending the meetings of 14 Feb were HAMAS and the Islamic Jihad and all forms of resistances are cursed and humilliated HOW DOES THAT MAKE THEM A MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD!? and by adopting the policies of 14 March after thier leader became unable to control them HOW DOES THAT MAKE THEM A MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD!? by Siding with thier Historical enemy Saudi Arabia and thier monarchy Does that sound like a Muslim brotherhood to you!? They used to admit themselves a few months ago that 14 March was an American Tool and they don't agree with them on most of what concerns the Resistance in lebanon, and that the Islamic Resistance has won against the Zionists in 2006 and that InLebanon There are two camps one is a resistance camp and the other is an American one, THESE ARE THE WORDS OF THIER LEADER JUST A FEW MONTHS FROM AGO!!!.
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No he Said that The Political Decision is being affcted by FM for Non-Religious Political reasons and because the Jama3a Is acting like a narrow minded Party that seeks only a seat in parliament at the expence of thier religion and they have disregarded the opinions of the Previous head of Jama3a and have taken sides with FM against the resistance and are dragging all the other institutions and all the young members of the Jama3awith them into this mess, HE TOLD THEM IF UR A JAMA3A THEN ACT LIKE ONE. And I'm not telling you to follow anyone specific But the Person who was assigned in Dar'ul Ifta'a Which you claim to follow that same person who was assigned by Hariri/Syria without SHURA!!! Doesn't that make you a Shiite? La Mufti Ba3ed Hassan Khaled!!! ur just kidding urselves by following employees of Hariri and BTW what Sheikh Maher said is nothing new that is common knowlege That the Jama3a is only seeking seats at the expense of religion Did you know that they were willing to ally with the christians in Tripoli for electoral purposes? HOW DOES THAT MAKE THEM A MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD!? and By Supporting a Tribunal of Zionists How Does that Make them a Muslim brotherhood!? and by Complementing Pierre gemayel and contributing in his Janaza HOW DOES THAT MAKE THEM A MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD!? and by Complementing Jubran Tweini and describing him as martyr or hero or whatever HOW DOES THAT MAKE THEM A MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD!? and by Attending the meetings of 14 Feb were HAMAS and the Islamic Jihad and all forms of resistances are cursed and humilliated HOW DOES THAT MAKE THEM A MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD!? and by adopting the policies of 14 March after thier leader became unable to control them HOW DOES THAT MAKE THEM A MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD!? by Siding with thier Historical enemy Saudi Arabia and thier monarchy Does that sound like a Muslim brotherhood to you!? They used to admit themselves a few months ago that 14 March was an American Tool and they don't agree with them on most of what concerns the Resistance in lebanon, and that the Islamic Resistance has won against the Zionists in 2006 and that InLebanon There are two camps one is a resistance camp and the other is an American one, THESE ARE THE WORDS OF THIER LEADER JUST A FEW MONTHS FROM AGO!!!.
he also said that Jama3a are now like a tool in the hand of FM ... now whether its true or not .... there's no proof ... there's alliance project between both .. why do you want to forbid alliances ?
now that they're with their 'historical' enemies , thank HA - seeing his danger making sunna unite ...
now seeking alliance with christians!! omg what a big deal ... isn't HA calling itself "Islamic" ( I can argue about that too! coz I disagree with that name ) Resistance ( I also disagree with that name ) , still they ally with the christian AOun :o omg!
Zionist tribunal ... no comment lol.
attending memorials w janezet w sho ya3ne ? didn't Hassan Nasrallah enter knise mar mkhayel wa2et l MoU ? this is irrelevant to the subject if they are islemiyen or not :o.
moreover where did they attend M14 meetings ? 0.o if it happened , then rarely , coz never noticed them.
also Jama3a Islemiye did many protests supporting Gaza , and Hamas ... and jamma3et tabaro3at ... now you're saying they're against Hamas?
They never said M14 are American tool , but they criticized M14's 'mouyoul' lal gharb , though they always declared they're against the US.
Bro , your talk is like a 'bla bla bla' sorry.

PS: I only follow Quran and Sunna , if I seek something I don't know , Dar El fatwa is the marja3 ... now if they're appointed by Hariri , they're pro-Hariri politically , bas still bl share3 byefhamo aktar mene w menak , I am not following them politically , but religiously.
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he also said that Jama3a are now like a tool in the hand of FM ... now whether its true or not .... there's no proof ... there's alliance project between both .. why do you want to forbid alliances ?
now that they're with their 'historical' enemies , thank HA - seeing his danger making sunna unite ...
So when they become shu3ara2 al Bulat for 14 March and Biballshou Yemda7ou Those who do not rule by what allah has decreed (by Brotherhood standards Kuffar, Zalimoun...)Then you still think they are upholding thier standards? Do you know what is an islamic brotherHood? do you know what is thier purpose? Do you know exactly when they were formed and Why? If you know then you will also know that these guys are acting like Whores selling themselves and Ridiculing all of what the BrotherHood stands for.
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now seeking alliance with christians!! omg what a big deal ... isn't HA calling itself "Islamic" ( I can argue about that too! coz I disagree with that name ) Resistance ( I also disagree with that name ) , still they ally with the christian AOun :o omg!
Who cares about The Shi3a Im talking about The Sunnah Islamic BrotherHood specifically, I'm a muslim and an Ally to HA but not to Aoun or Berri for example...Badna N7aseb el Shi3a on thier Doctrine? I don't folow Fatwas by Shi3a Imams I only care about Sunni ones and making sure that we are on the right path.

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Zionist tribunal ... no comment lol.
Because ur an Ignorant who doesn't know That supporting such a Thing is a Sin specially since the whole tribunal is Under Un control which in turn is under US control THUS ISRAEL WILL NEVER BE GUILTY and all those Israeli networks uncovered in Lebanon will be disreguarded... That is a Zionist Tribunal. Ya3ni halla2 el Jama3a Byed3amou the Tribunal in Lebanon but are against the Exact Tribunal in Sudan.

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attending memorials w janezet w sho ya3ne ? didn't Hassan Nasrallah enter knise mar mkhayel wa2et l MoU ? this is irrelevant to the subject if they are islemiyen or not :o.
Bto7dar Janazet Masi7i w Betsharek Fiha Bi2ouweh...How is that an Islamic BrotherHood? how are they sticking to the standards of ahel al Sunnah even? Wasn't Assad Harmouch Humiliated and puniched as a result of this Ya Estez? and BTW as muslims we are allowed to enter any church and even pray in it for Allah as long as it is clean.

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moreover where did they attend M14 meetings ? 0.o if it happened , then rarely , coz never noticed them.
That's because they were Sticking a bit to thier Standards while Faysal Mawlawi was still in acceptable health but now Falatou 3a Rye7ton and they are attending anything they want and Clapping for Nayla Mou3awad as she Mocks HAMAS!!! How is that even Islamic?

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also Jama3a Islemiye did many protests supporting Gaza , and Hamas ... and jamma3et tabaro3at ... now you're saying they're against Hamas?
And here is the biggest problem, they protest for HAMAS then they ally with Hariri/Saudi who was openly Backing EGYPT AND ATTACKING HAMAS who is also a muslim Brotherhood Group...Do you think We are Stupid, we Know what that Political Office is Doing and we know that they are dragging the entire Jama3a with them underGround, Tfeh! and BTW even then FM gave them the "red eye" becuse of thier stance with HAMAS andit was all over the newspapers.

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They never said M14 are American tool , but they criticized M14's 'mouyoul' lal gharb , though they always declared they're against the US.
BIG BIG MOUYOUL Almost the Same Policy as America sub7an Allah Didn't you think for a while that Sheikh Faysal didn't want to say that FM are with the American Camp because he didn't want to create a HUGE problem in the Sunni street? hay ma KHatarlak mahek? But he did Say that there is a Resistance camp and and Anti-resistance American Camp, or don't you remember that? Do you think the head of the Jama3 would say it openly? No he Gave hints the same way ur Prophet(PBUH) gave hints that Abu Bakr should be the First Caliph.

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PS: I only follow Quran and Sunna , if I seek something I don't know , Dar El fatwa is the marja3 ... now if they're appointed by Hariri , they're pro-Hariri politically , bas still bl share3 byefhamo aktar mene w menak , I am not following them politically , but religiously.
Haydi 3a2liyet el Ghanam, That we don't understand **** and they understand everything thus we follow them Blindly, mashallah 3leik And they don't mix politics with religion I guess? and thier Head Has not Been Participating In Politics and talking BS on TV? He once appeared in an Interview on MANAR w Bahdalna because he sounded like an Ignorant almost exactly the same way the guy in the Inetrview Ali Sheikh Amar was talking, Rou7 Bello La Hal Mufti w Shrab Maytto!!!
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