Shahhal: GMA the sectarian

[supersonichadi]

Originally Posted by kappa273

you remind of those LF people who claim that GMA was behind the syrian invasion of what was left of lebanon in 1990. they forget they were fighting with the syrians that day..
they blame GMA on the TAEF accord and forget they agreed on it...

1. the salafis existed long before may 7th.
2. they have been nurtured for quite some time by hariri
3. i wonder why people keep introducing this cause-effect relationship... HA kicked Hariri's ***, the salafis are going to rise... perhaps it is the job of hariri and the sunni moderates to control them... are they so immature?

let them rise, they are so malignant, they will kill themselves and especially kill those people they are trying to protect..

For the 100 times I will re-say it, I didn't deny their existance before may 7, but what happened at May 7 is the main cause of making them rise in such massive way. Have you gone to Tripoli lately? Sorry for saying that, but it looks so disgusting with these people spreading all over the pretty city.

[Amirkani]

Originally Posted by supersonichadi

For the 100 times I will re-say it, I didn't deny their existance before may 7, but what happened at May 7 is the main cause of making them rise in such massive way. Have you gone to Tripoli lately? Sorry for saying that, but it looks so disgusting with these people spreading all over the pretty city.

It's their capital, as they just announced. They're its inhabitants. It's up to them to make it pretty or disgusting... how can we help them one way or the other?

GMA knew what he was saying when he told them at the onset of the conflict about a month ago: you will be harming only yourselves by instigating this conflict because if you think it will spread, it won't. It will remain localized.

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[The Brain]

Simply I still don't know how they allow to such person & groups to figure & speak loudly on TV's & Medias. They don't believe in Lebanon as a country they do have their own as they say, they should be in Jail for Khiyéné 3ozma .
They voted in 2005 for Geagea when they voted Zayyi Ma Hiyya without knowing who the candidates are, they will do the same in 2009.

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by supersonichadi

For the 100 times I will re-say it, I didn't deny their existance before may 7, but what happened at May 7 is the main cause of making them rise in such massive way. Have you gone to Tripoli lately? Sorry for saying that, but it looks so disgusting with these people spreading all over the pretty city.

100 times is not enough to convince others of a weak argument.
it takes only 1 try with a good argument on the other hand..

HA didnt give them the excuse to do this, they would do this regardless since many ppl seem to like them in the north. that's their mutual problem, the problem of those who host them and those who fund them.

their ilk didnt wait for HA to do anything to attack the army in 2000 in donieh and later on in nahr al badr. they didnt wait for HA for them to take harriri's petro dollars in the 2005 elections.

these guys are just doing their regular shady business, but the only ones responsible are the geniuses that helped them, encouraged them, funded them, and imported many of their disciples..
that's mainly shek Saed's great good-doing and contribution to the ppl of lebanon and those of the north in particular. i think they should go vote for him again in the 2009 elections, maybe this time he'll bring back some dinosaurs and T.rexs from extinction and let them loose freely in his newest northern backyard.. hehe
i'm sure the ppl of the north would cheer for him more then and blame the rampant T.Rexs that are nibbling them on the actions of the foul hizbullah..

good luck i say, they are gonna need it.

[supersonichadi]

Originally Posted by Amirkani

It's their capital, as they just announced. They're its inhabitants. It's up to them to make it pretty or disgusting... how can we help them one way or the other?

GMA knew what he was saying when he told them at the onset of the conflict about a month ago: you will be harming only yourselves by instigating this conflict because if you think it will spread, it won't. It will remain localized.

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Am concerned because it's part of our country, and it's our to make it clean of these scum if we can

[king]

Originally Posted by supersonichadi

For the 100 times I will re-say it, I didn't deny their existance before may 7, but what happened at May 7 is the main cause of making them rise in such massive way. Have you gone to Tripoli lately? Sorry for saying that, but it looks so disgusting with these people spreading all over the pretty city.

Hi supersonichadi
I was trying to keep myself away from this useless debate the only reason and you are correct for the salafist to show up more is because they got their **** kicked in Beirut and the only place they can show their powers is in Tripoli because it is their stronghold in Beirut they were behind FM but because they don't know the area properly they were not able to perform as they did not stay in the city for long to build a strong relationship with the locals if you go and revise their speech you will understand better they existed in Beirut because FM asked them to help make some sort of balance with HA now they are asking for the cheque to be paid and of course to get them in Beirut in the 1st place they were promised that the government will free their captives of NAHR Al Bared all this was before Doha as a united government was not on the agenda but now the situation is different this promise can no longer be fulfilled their for their only option as always is to revert to violence that’s what they are good at and that’s what they always will be, in an effort to get their demands or promises met. Their for we will all suffer from their reaction and no one will be excluded.
all i hope that the government put stop for them before Me You and everyone suffer the consequences from a foolish FM decision .
What i also suggest is any one have an info regarding groups like this to make it available to the Army moukhabarate or any one can deliver the information in an effort to conquer their terror

[Nayla H]

Originally Posted by chafic

Nayla, would you explain where do you disagree, and where do you agree (if on anything)?

ok.. tekram

Originally Posted by BOILER

Shahhal: GMA is a maronite leader, a sectarian one.
I visited him once when he was still a patriotic leader for all the lebanese, but now he's only sectarian.

1- GMA is not sectarian
2- People like shahhal (aktar mn sectarian) have no right to tell if somebody
else is or isn't sectarian.. fi massal bl 3arabé bi2oul:

الجمل لو شاف حردبتو، كان وقع وفكّ رقبتو

3- He has no right to talk about patriotism cz he knows nothing about it..

GMA calling for secularism, meaning he wants the civil marriage, then we are against him ''min fo2 elsati7''

B3elmé sectarian !! kif zabatet ma3o?
Many people (christian,muslim,druze,jews..) are against civil marriage, not only him.. and many others are with..
I'm not interested to know what he thinks about it

Walid Jomblat is allied to our sunnis leaders, so we consider him our own ally knowing that we sometimes disagree with him on the political level.

tanjara w le2iet ghataha..

I don't consider the patriarch a believer, just like he doesn't consider me a one.
Does the patriarch believe that profit Mohammad is God's messanger

?

He has no right to judge others.. he's not God's secretary..

We can't reach an islamic state in Lebanon.
If we can convince 75% of the lebanese to adopt ''elshari3a elislamiyyeh '' it will be fine, but we know this can't be done.

HA said that it's impossible to have an islamic state in Lebanon because of the confessionalism.. many religions and one country for all of us.. point à la ligne

Let HA take its weapons to the South and only South to resist there.
We want to resist in the South too, side by side to HA.
The weapons should not be held by one side only

.

Shou? 3ared 3adalet l 2ossa? SHN asked them to fight with them.. yetfaddalo yfarjouna boutoulaton l jame3a


I hope i replied to you chafic..
I don't like those hypocrates and i find them full of complexes which need millions of years to be resolved.. They say only what the one who gives them money tell them to say.. ni plus, ni moins..

[supersonichadi]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

100 times is not enough to convince others of a weak argument.
it takes only 1 try with a good argument on the other hand..

HA didnt give them the excuse to do this, they would do this regardless since many ppl seem to like them in the north. that's their mutual problem, the problem of those who host them and those who fund them.

their ilk didnt wait for HA to do anything to attack the army in 2000 in donieh and later on in nahr al badr. they didnt wait for HA for them to take harriri's petro dollars in the 2005 elections.

these guys are just doing their regular shady business, but the only ones responsible are the geniuses that helped them, encouraged them, funded them, and imported many of their disciples..
that's mainly shek Saed's great good-doing and contribution to the ppl of lebanon and those of the north in particular. i think they should go vote for him again in the 2009 elections, maybe this time he'll bring back some dinosaurs and T.rexs from extinction and let them loose freely in his newest northern backyard.. hehe
i'm sure the ppl of the north would cheer for him more then and blame the rampant T.Rexs that are nibbling them on the actions of the foul hizbullah..

good luck i say, they are gonna need it.

I didn't deny that Harrirism funded them, but we must admit it, HA made a mistake in May 7, they raised the secterian thoughts to the highest level, which found a background for these scum to rise and their thoughts be spread over the Sunni's youngsters. They are saying that HA attacked the Sunni areas and nobody helped them, they will offer them help to get rid of HA, and revenge for their religion.

[Amirkani]

Originally Posted by supersonichadi

Am concerned because it's part of our country, and it's our to make it clean of these scum if we can

We will... once those in that area who want to be part of the country stand up against those who don't and reject them instead of cuddling up to them.

We can't do things alone...

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[Nayla H]

Originally Posted by supersonichadi

I didn't deny that Harrirism funded them, but we must admit it, HA made a mistake in May 7, they raised the secterian thoughts to the highest level, which found a background for these scum to rise and their thoughts be spread over the Sunni's youngsters. They are saying that HA attacked the Sunni areas and nobody helped them, they will offer them help to get rid of HA, and revenge for their religion.

hadi..
1- they hate HA before may 7.. they hate them because they are shi3a..
They don't need excuses to kill a shiite because it's a long time hatred

2- On may 7, everyone was clear : it wasn't a war against the sunni.. they wanted to show it as if it was but it was a big lie from the FM.. they wanted it sunni/shi3a bass ma zabatet ma3on..

3- The salafists were in Lebanon since several years and they wanted to fight the christians and the shi3a because they consider the shi3a as kuffar..


Nshallah fekrak natrin 7ejjé ya3né.. Don't be so innocent Hadi.. they are full of hatred.. you don't know them.. i know them very well..