Sfeir's position(s) after the formation of the government

[LebArmenian]

about sfeir ,

i have a friend who's father was kidnapped around 18 months ago now, they saw sfeir 3 times till now, and each time they see him he forgets who their father is ( the kidnapped person is famous , they speak of him daily on TV ).

so , bottom line , why do you care what this old dude will say ?

[Diabolo_7]

the patriarch has been barking in the favor of Hariri and his allies for the past 4 years, yet he cant even get them to appoint a new chief of education ministry...

[Fakhr eddine 1618]

Originally Posted by X

I can't wait to hear Sfeir once the government is formed, since 1990, since he declared himself as the responsible for the Christians in politics, the best he could achieve is ministry of education or something equivalent.

Tomorrow when the government is formed, Christians (those who he loves and those who he hates) will get the best ministries since 1990, in fact, Christians will get in one government more than what they got in the whole previous governments since 1990.

Sfeir was nagging about not having a government for 4 months and was blaming GMA directly, he wanted GMA to take the ministry of education or something equivalent and leave the rest of 25 ministries to Hariri.

Dear Mr. Sfeir, thank you very much, 15 to 17 years you were in charge, Christians tele3lon Jazra, now they are back to the state for the first time since decades, so between the hell you made the Christians live for 2 decades and the 4 months without government so that the Christians end up back to where they belong, I am sure any Christian with minimum IQ knows who failed miserably and who succeeded, even they won't confess, they all know, the same way you know.

I am not attacking you Mr. Sfeir, and i am not blaming you, I understand your frustration, you know very well what will history write about you and what will history write about those who you hate, all i am saying is, i can't wait to listen to your next masterpiece, don't make me wait for long.....

Dear X, you have a major mistake in your post: who told you that Sfeir considers FPM christians????

No, he does not, according to him, HA has got half of the ministers

[elador]

"

الانباء": صفير باق في موقعه أقله حتى مطلع العام 2011
08 تشرين الثاني 2009

نقلت صحيفة "الانباء" الكويتية عن مصادر كنسية نفيها كل ما يُشاع مجددا حول تغيير في البطريركية المارونية أو حول لجنة مطارنة تعاون البطريرك نصرالله صفير في مهامه، خصوصا في الشؤون والمواقف السياسية. واذ تدرج المصادر هذه الشائعات في اطار حملة متجددة على البطريرك الماروني بناء على مواقفه الاخيرة، فإنها تؤكد ان البطريرك صفير باق في موقعه اقله حتى مطلع العام 2011، أي الى ما بعد مشاركته في سينودس الشرق الاوسط الذي سيعقد في الفاتيكان في خريف العام المقبل، وكان البابا بينيديكتوس السادس عشر نسقه مع بطاركة الشرق الكاثوليكي الذين اجتمعوا به قبل شهرين.

enjoy!

[coralie]

Originally Posted by X

I can't wait to hear Sfeir once the government is formed, since 1990, since he declared himself as the responsible for the Christians in politics, the best he could achieve is ministry of education or something equivalent.

Tomorrow when the government is formed, Christians (those who he loves and those who he hates) will get the best ministries since 1990, in fact, Christians will get in one government more than what they got in the whole previous governments since 1990.

Sfeir was nagging about not having a government for 4 months and was blaming GMA directly, he wanted GMA to take the ministry of education or something equivalent and leave the rest of 25 ministries to Hariri.

Dear Mr. Sfeir, thank you very much, 15 to 17 years you were in charge, Christians tele3lon Jazra, now they are back to the state for the first time since decades, so between the hell you made the Christians live for 2 decades and the 4 months without government so that the Christians end up back to where they belong, I am sure any Christian with minimum IQ knows who failed miserably and who succeeded, even they won't confess, they all know, the same way you know.

I am not attacking you Mr. Sfeir, and i am not blaming you, I understand your frustration, you know very well what will history write about you and what will history write about those who you hate, all i am saying is, i can't wait to listen to your next masterpiece, don't make me wait for long.....

ohhhh to tell you the truth i dont give a S.. about what this senile say or do . i never listen to him , whenever he is on tv i simply change the channel . i prefer comedy channel yeah it makes me laugh , cheer me up , boost my positif side and keep my mental health healthy !!!!! .....i manage my nerves no need to listen to garbage blablabla it affect my neurones in a negative way !

[Abotareq93]

Originally Posted by LebArmenian

about sfeir ,

i have a friend who's father was kidnapped around 18 months ago now, they saw sfeir 3 times till now, and each time they see him he forgets who their father is ( the kidnapped person is famous , they speak of him daily on TV ).

so , bottom line , why do you care what this old dude will say ?

Patriarch Sfier has a good memory only when it comes to GMA.

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by elador

"

الانباء": صفير باق في موقعه أقله حتى مطلع العام 2011
08 تشرين الثاني 2009

نقلت صحيفة "الانباء" الكويتية عن مصادر كنسية نفيها كل ما يُشاع مجددا حول تغيير في البطريركية المارونية أو حول لجنة مطارنة تعاون البطريرك نصرالله صفير في مهامه، خصوصا في الشؤون والمواقف السياسية. واذ تدرج المصادر هذه الشائعات في اطار حملة متجددة على البطريرك الماروني بناء على مواقفه الاخيرة، فإنها تؤكد ان البطريرك صفير باق في موقعه اقله حتى مطلع العام 2011، أي الى ما بعد مشاركته في سينودس الشرق الاوسط الذي سيعقد في الفاتيكان في خريف العام المقبل، وكان البابا بينيديكتوس السادس عشر نسقه مع بطاركة الشرق الكاثوليكي الذين اجتمعوا به قبل شهرين.

enjoy!

Who's a candidate for the position?

[TTT1]

Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_LF

Christians always had half the ministries whether in 90 or now. What's your point? If you consider yourself more Christian than Elie Hbeika and Michel Smeha think again...

As always I enjoy reading the logic of your replies
Now if you aresaying that between 1990 and 2005 christians were treated faily in politics (with GMA in exile and your aristote leader in prison) then you should be the one thinking again!
Your problm is that you have never been, will never be and surely are not realistic and objective /
Yes Mr LF and all your alikes, it is GMA's negotiation that has raised the bar for the representativity of the chrisitans in the government , including your own seats (as you see, your aristote leader wants to tell us bye bye ya 7elwine so he is obliged to ask for a better seat)....
The hatred of LFers toward us is becoming at the same time sickening and boring ... This nice OTV report is a conclusive one (YouTube - OTV: باي باي يا Ø*لوين .... بس لمين ØŸ)

At the end, you should know that your aristote is way below any level of logic and achievements and ultimaely, we , FPMers will do, as Johnnie Walker's ad:
...... KEEP WALKING ..........

[PFC]

FPM:OMG 2011 zut alors!!
LF:ew ew eeew
HA:w inana min al sabirin
FM:15 more cheques
Amal:later we could get his cheques
Kataeb:baddon yshilo el patghak HOUJOOOOUM
CP:what is a batrak?
PSP:in 2000 bla bla bla bla

[X]

Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_LF

Christians always had half the ministries whether in 90 or now. What's your point? If you consider yourself more Christian than Elie Hbeika and Michel Smeha think again...

Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_LF

Exactly it's about weight. But like I said, if you think you weigh more than Elie Hbeika and Michel Smeha you are so mistaken. lol!

Originally Posted by J.Hanna

Sleiman Franjiye was minister of Interior and Health throughout the 90's and up till 2005.

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Sfeir was against those you mentioned, they became ministers with their own politics not because of Sfeir

Originally Posted by J.Hanna

The LF on the other hand is getting Justice and Social Affairs or Labor, while Kateb are getting Education and State Ministry.

Originally Posted by J.Hanna

Honestly kap, it doesnt even matter which one of us gets it. 5 ministries between LF, Kataeb, and Harb and they will include Justice, Education, Social Affairs, one other minstry, and State. We will see who gets what in a few days.

LF and Kataeb are getting those ministries thanks to us, in 2005 when we didnt participate in the government, they took 2 ministries, in 2007 after we entered the government, they got better ministries and this time because of us they are getting more and better ministries, this is not something I am saying, even pro Hariri media are confessing this.

Without Aoun, you were going to end up with couple of ministries like 2005.

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

X, It's bad enough that you can't get off the Patriarch's back when he does say something, now you're attacking him for what you think he will say.
.....tekhunteh......

I am not attacking him, he attacked us last week in Masira, so i am just telling him, you made us wait for 17 years and we got nothing after 17 years, in 4 months, we got 10 times more than what you offered us in 17 years.

That is not an attack, that is highlighting what kind of a failure Mr. Sfeir was is and will always be.

W yelli mesh 3ejbo, you can go back to Hariri and ask him not to give you serious ministries and give you what you were taking during Sfeir's era (Jazra)