Sayed Hassan Nassrallah speech September-4-2008

[mount_amel]

Originally Posted by lebnan_lilkel

This raicsm that oozes out of your answer has nothing to do with the topic. Discussing issues in a simplistic way is frustrating abou Sandal. This shallowness addresses hatred and not politics.

Salamet

Yeh right ! Shallowness !

What is shallow is what you have understood from SHN .. Are you Ok if your brother got shot by HA fighter and HA dosent deliver the shooter to justice .. If you dont mind theni reset my case with all of you ..

Again, read his reply first and then come and accuse me shallowness and racisim ..

Salam

[fidelio]

There's no armed resistance movement in the history of the world that used blank bullets, operated under the umbrella of the state, or was immune from error.
Practically every armed resistance movement has been labeled as terrorists, mavericks or subservient to foreign powers.
The rationale to detract armed resistance and to curb them is the same one used today.

[GMA forever]

Originally Posted by spiderboy

To those FPMers as well to GMA who use to say and be convinced that once the demandes of Hezb will be fullfield: Prisoners returning from Israel, returning of Chebaa to Lebanon... The weapons of Hezb will have no excuse to stay and Hezb from his own initiative will give his weapons to the Army.
We heard this so many times during the past 2 years from GMA in many of his media conferences as well as we read it a lot here in the forum.

You forgot to add the third demand, which is the most important by the way, the national defense strategy. I wonder did it slip your mind or you forgot it on purpose?

Originally Posted by spiderboy

By the way, the war you did against the FL milicia back in 1990, was not to bring the autority and weapon control under the government and army control alone?????

First the LF started the war against the lebanese government in 1990, mainly to weacken the army and let Taef pass. If you still don't know this truth ya3ne I don't know in what planet are you living in.
Second, yes GMA wanted to bring the militia weapons under the control of the government and he wants it now, this is why there was something called MoU. But you are too blind to see it.

[SISCO]

Originally Posted by TayyarBeino

09:11 السيد نصرالله: النائب رعد قال ان الحكومة اللبنانية لا تملك قرار الحرب والسلم وما كان يقصده أن لا أحد في المنطقة لا لبنان ولا المقاومة ولا الجيش يملك القرار إنما من يملكه هو إسرائيل
09:09 السيد نصرالله: مشروعنا ليس احتكار المقاومة لا في السابق ولا في الحاضر ولا في المستقبل
09:08 السيد نصرالله: اليوم في لبنان هناك إجماع على لبنانية مزارع شبعا، أنا لا أدعو لإطلاق النار، لكن في إطار الحديث حزب الله غير موجود في شبعا للمقاومة فتفضلوا إذا للمقاومة هنك وحوادث 7 أيار أثبتت أن الجميع يملك سلاحا ومن يتبعك على سلاح المقاومة يملك سلاحا
09:06 السيد نصرالله: البعض يقول نحن لم نقاوم لكن "حزب الله" احتكر المقاومة هل منعنا أحدا من المقاومة، والحديث عن احتكار المقاومة واهية وعاجزة عن إقناع أحد
09:05 السيد نصرالله: حتى عندما تكون لديك فضيلة البعض لا يرى فيك شيئا جميلا، نحن لم نحتكر المقاومة ولم نقطع الطريق على أحد، وأستغرب بعض الأحزاب التي تقول "هم يزايدون علينا بالمقاومة ونحن اول من أطلقها" وأسأل أين ومتى

That is not true !!! HA worked in order to eliminate all the other parties that were fighting the occupation and specially the LCP.

[MindFree]

Originally Posted by mount_amel

Yeh right ! Shallowness !

What is shallow is what you have understood from SHN .. Are you Ok if your brother got shot by HA fighter and HA dosent deliver the shooter to justice .. If you dont mind theni reset my case with all of you ..

Again, read his reply first and then come and accuse me shallowness and racisim ..

Salam

Mount Amel.
I fully agree with your stance regarding the words of Nasrallah but i think that the word 'typical dahye mentality' is out of its place, there is no 'typical dahye mentality', there is a mentality that you might dislike , but it is not typical of a region.

regards

[lebnan_lilkel]

Originally Posted by mount_amel

Yeh right ! Shallowness !

What is shallow is what you have understood from SHN .. Are you Ok if your brother got shot by HA fighter and HA dosent deliver the shooter to justice .. If you dont mind theni reset my case with all of you ..

Again, read his reply first and then come and accuse me shallowness and racisim ..

Salam

You've set yourself as the judge and the Jury. You assumed that the Fighter shot a man in cold blood and HA covered him.

While being shallow and hypothetical, and without waiting for the Judiciary to tell us the truth. A recent Example :

we believed the LF story in Sannin. It was totally the opposite ! They had black hummers , Israeli style, and travelling through a HA town.

Now we hear the Helicopter didn't have the Lebanese flags on it.

Next we may hear that they were in the wrong area ??

lies don't go well in this forum. FM forums are full of it.

Thats what we mean by basic shallowness and lack of maturity.

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by fidelio

There's no armed resistance movement in the history of the world that used blank bullets, operated under the umbrella of the state, or was immune from error.
Practically every armed resistance movement has been labeled as terrorists, mavericks or subservient to foreign powers.
The rationale to detract armed resistance and to curb them is the same one used today.

the problem isn't that hizbullah wants to stick to its arms and that the (armed) angelinc febs want to dismantle it. no

the problem is that the febs don't want any form of defense against isreal be it hizbullah or any new body in the future, and here’s the deadlock.

they even don't want the lebanese army to be on serious vigil against israel. it's just bad for their political interests, they would much rather prefer having the army serve tea to the IDF.

here is the problem nothing more nothing less. hell will have to break wide open into heaven b4 the febs would allow the army to be equipped properly to face israel or syrian or anybody else.
they just need an army and security forces to police their hotel state.
the same trashy model we find everywhere in the gulf region..

go reason with such ppl.

[elias-aj]

Originally Posted by spiderboy

To those FPMers as well to GMA who use to say and be convinced that once the demandes of Hezb will be fullfield: Prisoners returning from Israel, returning of Chebaa to Lebanon... The weapons of Hezb will have no excuse to stay and Hezb from his own initiative will give his weapons to the Army.
We heard this so many times during the past 2 years from GMA in many of his media conferences as well as we read it a lot here in the forum.

Well yesterday you got your answer, and i know now that you will start to find new excuses to justify what Hassan declared last night, as if you have been appointed as the " porte-parole" of the Hezb.

2nd point, Hassan talked a lot about the accident that cost the life of the Cap Hanna becoz of one hezb guy, but he FORGOT to explain to us why did his men beaten up the co-pilote and interogated him... Oh sorry, maybe Hezb think that this is normal for him to do such a thing and that he has the right to do it becoz hezb has been used to such practices example: with FSI in Dahyeh and civilians in Sannine, and the French MP and... and... and...

Well good luck FPM with your plan in having only the army as a legal and exclusive party to have weapons to defend Lebanon.

By the way, the war you did against the FL milicia back in 1990, was not to bring the autority and weapon control under the government and army control alone?????

Bashing, criticizing etc. Is it possible, for once, to have a normal debate ? I mean it's very easy to criticize. You're criticizing FPM and HA. OK. Propose something, an alternative...

Since 2005, I only heard critics coming from the febers. But I never heard them proposing something...a project, a political program, an alternative to the FPM's position. Nothing.

Is this the "alternative" you're proposing ? Just say that syrians are mean people and FPM are fascists or syrians or HA lackeys or God knows what ?

Febers political level is so flimsy.

[hannaalsayssa]

Originally Posted by spiderboy

To those FPMers as well to GMA who use to say and be convinced that once the demandes of Hezb will be fullfield: Prisoners returning from Israel, returning of Chebaa to Lebanon... The weapons of Hezb will have no excuse to stay and Hezb from his own initiative will give his weapons to the Army.
We heard this so many times during the past 2 years from GMA in many of his media conferences as well as we read it a lot here in the forum.

Well yesterday you got your answer, and i know now that you will start to find new excuses to justify what Hassan declared last night, as if you have been appointed as the " porte-parole" of the Hezb.

2nd point, Hassan talked a lot about the accident that cost the life of the Cap Hanna becoz of one hezb guy, but he FORGOT to explain to us why did his men beaten up the co-pilote and interogated him... Oh sorry, maybe Hezb think that this is normal for him to do such a thing and that he has the right to do it becoz hezb has been used to such practices example: with FSI in Dahyeh and civilians in Sannine, and the French MP and... and... and...

Well good luck FPM with your plan in having only the army as a legal and exclusive party to have weapons to defend Lebanon.

By the way, the war you did against the FL milicia back in 1990, was not to bring the autority and weapon control under the government and army control alone?????

just to point to you a tiny winy little i am sure u overlooked it when typing your post.

GMA (allah yehme wa yehme kel al nass) said some time .

HA ARMS ARE NEEDED UNTIL THE PALESTINIANS LEAVVVVVVVVVVVVE LEBANON.

get used to te idea........................LOL

[mount_amel]

Originally Posted by lebnan_lilkel

You've set yourself as the judge and the Jury. You assumed that the Fighter shot a man in cold blood and HA covered him.

While being shallow and hypothetical, and without waiting for the Judiciary to tell us the truth. A recent Example :

we believed the LF story in Sannin. It was totally the opposite ! They had black hummers , Israeli style, and travelling through a HA town.

Now we hear the Helicopter didn't have the Lebanese flags on it.

Next we may hear that they were in the wrong area ??

lies don't go well in this forum. FM forums are full of it.

Thats what we mean by basic shallowness and lack of maturity.

Shallowness is when i think that it is ok that HA dosent cooperate with the LA and Jurdicial system in lebanon ..
When SHN says we dont deliver fighters regardless of the mistake or accident or assult they do what will think of this statment ?

I need a clarification from HA supporters ..