Sami El Gemayel... Is he different!?

[Robin Hood]

Originally Posted by GeorgeY

i really wander what the ppl pro-federalism or semi fed or confed, think. i have few questions hope someone knows what he is talking about and can answer me

concerning taxation and spending. how is it done?
(cause if the federal government is the one that spends the income then we r still in the same place. and if each state has its own taxation, dont u think it is unfair that after 50 bil in debts only beirut is the highest city in income)

concerning mixed cities. what happens to them?

concerning our great debts. what happens to it?
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and the list goes on...

in general how can anyone see pros in federalism in contrary to equality and improving our own system. and why dont we build our own system? do we have to copy/paste someone's else?

The pro of federalisme for the in3izelieh will be that the in3izelieh will be ma3zoulin, it's as simple as that.

[SamerTayyar]

Somehow Sami impressed me in his latest interview with Marcel.

He pointed out to the core problem in Lebanon, the political system.

The program we and others offered in the elections doesnt tackle the problems

that FPM wouldve faced if we won the elections and tried to implement our program

What political system does Lebanon have? no one could correctly answer this question

The Lebanese leaders should have a national dialogue and reach a new

political system ( federal,secular..) whichever it is to solve this issue rather

than screaming on TV over the 1/3 and the 2/3 of the government and ministries distribution.

I guess that would never happen, since they are a product of this paralyzed system.

[sanabel]

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

Unfortunately Lebanon has hit rock bottom.
Lebanon was created as a refuge for the displaced and oppressed Minorities in a region of intolerance.
Lebanon has hit rock bottom in the sence that the those whom Lebanon was created to protect no longer have a say in what happens in their country.

You can argue the fact that Lebanon's Christians have become a minority within Lebanon, but does that make us less worthy of playing a decisive role in running our nation.

I'm not sure if Sami Gemayel still believes in the movement he co-founded Lubnanouna but, if a semi federal state is all we are left with in which we can exercise our beliefs and freedom without the influence of others, so be it.

The Christians in Jounieh,Joubail,Maten ,Zgharta,Baabda and jazzin voted against Loubnanouna(Sami's mazra3a which his uncle Bachir was against it) a voted for Loubnananouna wa loubnanihom (10452 KM2)...So you are against the majority of christian's will....

[sanabel]

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

Well at least your honest.

I'm not sure what your confessional orientation is and it's none of my business to know, but if you are a christian who lived in the eastern district in the eighties, my question to you is, are you better off now then than you were then? And how?

Yes ..I am a christian and i have lived in the eighties in the eastern christian district and now i am better off in Sydney because of your masters INTIFADAT ...Geaga /Houbaika.....Geaga /Goumayel.....Geaga /Aoun... And now you are fighting for a new Geaga or Sami's era and go back to INTIFADAT time....This will be the end of the christians in Lebanon.......By Kataeb and Geaga

[Armenian]

Whether we like him or not, whether we agree on his ideologies or not, we should admit that he is different than all the “kids" who got elected by inheriting family seats…

Thank you!!

[hannaalsayssa]

sami is sg main opponent

BUT WE have 2 main opponents today

1-sami south of BATROUN
2-sg north of BATROUN.

[dodzi]

Originally Posted by hannaalsayssa

sami is sg main opponent

BUT WE have 2 main opponents today

1-sami south of BATROUN
2-sg north of BATROUN.

More like

1- Sami Matn to South + Zahlé
2- SG Keserwen to North

[Youchka]

Originally Posted by Armenian

Whether we like him or not, whether we agree on his ideologies or not, we should admit that he is different than all the “kids" who got elected by inheriting family seats…

Thank you!!

Yeah indeed he did not inherit his seat, he cheated to win it. Chi bi charrif.

[Youchka]

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

Well at least your honest.

I'm not sure what your confessional orientation is and it's none of my business to know, but if you are a christian who lived in the eastern district in the eighties, my question to you is, are you better off now then than you were then? And how?

I am Christian on the papers, and non believer in reality. I am from Zahle, we saw what the thugs of Hobeika did in Zahle, I also lived in keserwan and I know what the thugs of Geagea did in Keserwan. We used to be "tahet rahmeton" to get anything at all, be it bread or fuel or fresh air. Geagea thugs used to catch my young relatives and friends to train them, against their will. They used to reek cocaine and heroine, they used to settle any small traffic incident by shooting between the legs of the m3attar who did not let them pass him.

So you are asking me if I am better off today, of course I am. And mind you, I did not fight all these years the Syrian occupation to have Samir Geagea occupation on me and my kids all over again.

[LebanonUSA]

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

Well at least your honest.

I'm not sure what your confessional orientation is and it's none of my business to know, but if you are a christian who lived in the eastern district in the eighties, my question to you is, are you better off now then than you were then? And how?

Yes, I'm better off because there isn't an animal in Israeli fatigues beating up my grandmother for objecting him going to the front of the long line to get bread for him and his buddies.