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Look at the course of events...

-Jumblat against Erslen

-Erslen reconciles with Jumblat

-Erslen allied to Jumblat for elections.

-Wahhab out and isolated Druze-wise.

-Wahhab attacked and attacks via Erslen.

-Erslen man asassinated.


Logic implies to think that Wahhab has the most interest in an attack on Erslen.

Is syria in it too for wahhab's sake? why would i think like that? Hezballa itslef might ally to Jumblat on next elections, so why would Syria want to target a new jumblat ally right now?

Who did it? how? let investigations rule in.

As a speculator i can't see where Geagea fits there either, shi wmenno, the guy is bad, but not that each second a firework takes off you point at Geagea.

What you have just done is simply state the OBVIOUS. However politics isn't about the obvious, it's about what's happening behind the scenes.
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وطنية - 10/9/2008 (سياسة) استقبل الرئيس اميل لحود، قبل ظهر اليوم في منزله في اليرزة، الوزير السابق يعقوب الصراف وجرى عرض الاوضاع العامة في البلاد.

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والتقى الرئيس لحود الوزير السابق وئام وهاب الذي قال بعد اللقاء: "بحثنا مع فخامة الرئيس في عدد من الاستحقاقات المقبلة، وخصوصا موضوع طاولة الحوار وقانون الانتخاب وأمور أخرى. اولا، انا استغرب كيف نبدأ بطاولة الحوار قبل اقرار قانون الانتخاب، وانا اخاف ان تفتح طاولة الحوار جدلا يعوق قانون الانتخاب ويؤخره. وهذا يعني اخلالا باتفاق الدوحة وهذا الامر لا يسهل الحوار. ثم ان طاولة الحوار يجب ان يبحث شكلها ومواضيعها مجددا. ما كان يصح قبل حرب تموز لا يصح بعدها، طاولة الحوار كانت قائمة قبل حرب تموز. أما الآن، فالأمر مختلف. هناك قوى تقريبا اندثرت في المجلس النيابي لم تعد موجودة وما زالت الى طاولة الحوار. وهناك قوى لها وجودها. وقلت اكثر من مرة نحن كمعارضة درزية نصر على ان تتمثل المعارضة الدرزية، وهي ممثلة عبر حلفائها في "حزب الله" وحركة "أمل" و"التيار الوطني الحر"، ولكن يلزمها تمثيل مباشر خصوصا أن هناك فريقا درزيا آخر، ونصر هنا وقلنا ان يترأس الوزير طلال ارسلان وفدا درزيا معارضا ويشارك في طاولة الحوار. كما ان هناك معارضين في طوائف اخرى يصرون على التمثيل. فأكثر ما نخاف ان تفتح هذه الطاولة باب نقاش يؤخر قانون الانتخاب وينعكس عليه، لذلك كان يجب تأخير اعلان بدء الحوار حتى اقرار قانون الانتخاب

For the record only..!

i think the above statement dated today refutes all claims that wiam wahhab is having hard times with Talal Erslen...

anyway, i like how many start giving us their undisclosed, sure without doubt accusations..

i bet you no one heard of this poor guy before today... I bet you half the members of this forum would have thought of him as PSP and close relative of Bassil Aridi....

right now we only know that this guy was member of the political bureau of the democratic party.... and that's it...

can someone enlighten us about his reaction to the detente between Jounblatt and Erslen?
can someone enlighten us about his opinion regarding Jounblatt's change of tone?
can someone enlighten us about his opinion of what's happening in the North?
can someone enlighten us about his opinion regarding May 7th events especially in the shouf?

i am not accusing anyone... but the lebanese political scene is very fragile, highly variable and open for a lot of questionning...

the only person right now who may have an idea who blew him up is Talal Erslen, in my opinion... (not to forget the remote possibility of Erslen being behind it as well)

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Is he related to Ghazi el 3aridi?
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i think the above statement dated today refutes all claims that wiam wahhab is having hard times with Talal Erslen...

anyway, i like how many start giving us their undisclosed, sure without doubt accusations..

i bet you no one heard of this poor guy before today... I bet you half the members of this forum would have thought of him as PSP and close relative of Bassil Aridi....

right now we only know that this guy was member of the political bureau of the democratic party.... and that's it...

can someone enlighten us about his reaction to the detente between Jounblatt and Erslen?
can someone enlighten us about his opinion regarding Jounblatt's change of tone?
can someone enlighten us about his opinion of what's happening in the North?
can someone enlighten us about his opinion regarding May 7th events especially in the shouf?

i am not accusing anyone... but the lebanese political scene is very fragile, highly variable and open for a lot of questionning...

the only person right now who may have an idea who blew him up is Talal Erslen, in my opinion... (not to forget the remote possibility of Erslen being behind it as well)

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Al Balad stated that he was behind bringing WJ and Erslan together.

خطف انفجار بيصور أمس أنفاس صالح العريضي، الرجل الذي لعب دوراً أساسياً في تقريب وجهات النظر بين الزعيمين الدرزيين النائب وليد جنبلاط والــوزيــر طــلال أرســلان وعمل على التحضير لــلــقــاﺀ ات جمعتهما وكــان أبرزها لقاﺀ عبيه. وذكــر مصدر في "الحزب الديمقراطي اللبناني" أن العريضي لعب أيضاً "دوراً بارزاً وفاعلاً في وأد الفتنة والتقريب بين العائلات في الجبل إثــر أحـــداث أيــار الماضي وبعدها
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Geagea has a big interest in inter-durzi fighting.
Of course Geagea is responsible. After all he was after every assasination that happened since he was born. From J F Kennedy to Benazir Buto. I never thought that hatred can bring a person that low.
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The situation is still too ambiguous to accuse anybody.

Blaming Wiam Wahhab is somewhat stupid. Everyone knows he will never run in the mountain area! He will probably be in Hezballah's list in Rashaya or Hasbaya, along with Faysal el dawood!, these two are closer allies to HA than they are to FPM, while Talal Arslan and the LDP are closer to FPM than to HA.
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الغريب في الأمر أن جنبلاط طلب التعليق بعد انتهاء التحقيق فهو لم يتهم كالعادة
بعد اتهاماتهم العماد عون بطلب انتظار التحقيق في الجرائم السابقة يحذون حذوه
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A man is dead.....

Let his family mourn for heaven's sake!!!

There's no point in pointing the finger, because, "as usual", there will be no outcome.

These assassinations are well planned and calculated killing, specifically intended to destabilize Lebanon, and maintain a front for the Arab-Israeli conflict.

The closer Lebanon gets to unifying its factions, and infact creating a stable government, the more we can expect to see these kind of murders that clearly intend to prevent unity.


All we can do is say Allah Yir7amou


and hope his murderers are brought to justice
Actually it's been confirmed that a person cannot mourn as long as the cause of death is not known, meaning the killers are not judged and condemned!
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let us wait the investigation !!! [/b]

Unfortunately, that's exactly the opposite of what the 14Feb people kept saying at every assassination for the past 3/4 years...
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Wi2am Wahhab's silence is deafening.
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