Questions with no answers...

[mike-ramma]

Originally Posted by Intabeh-Altayyar Jaref

King Rami
We "fpm" did not win zgharta. Sleiman franjieh was so disrespectful to general Aoun concerning zgharta. He announced his list without even consulting general Aoun. Days before the elctions he went on LBC to claim that "general Aoun knows that he, sleiman franjieh, can win zgharta elections without the help of fpm". I wish just 1000 fpm in zgharta boycott the elections, I don't want to say other thing like hoping they voted michel muawad list. less than 1000 votes seperated the 2 lists. I said 1000 votes only, but doesn't fpm has at leat 2000 votes. Just a simple question to Mr. Sleiman Franjieh who's dirty comments about the batrak (although I am totally against the batrak position toward general Aoun" and about many other things, cost us christian votes all over Lebanon : What would have happened if FPM did not support you in zgharta. Just this simple question.
From now on we will say the truth, ra7 menkoon we27in. 7ejon mrahnin 3ala tibet alb el general w nezlin malesh fi. 2refna ba2a. We are sick. We are aounists. From now on the truth will be like a train that lost its breaks.
more to come....

Since when you represent fpm, I am still wondering how you people act in such an arrogant way which led to a massive loss for the opposition in koura,batroun,beirut 1 with a drop in popularity of general aoun from 70% to 52%.The insinuation is the main problem in fpm as many people like you think that every single christian district is their own assets.Stop bragging about your infatuation for general aoun as you know nothing about this man.From now and on,people like you should step out with all their implacability and sectarianisim.We should wake up from the coma that paralyzed us during the past 4 years and made us care more about some silly political details and bashing hariri rather than standing next to people and serving themwhich is the main aim of our electoral program.Lets work on our people again and restore their confidence since this elections reflected a pathetic situation for the opposition in general and fpm specifically.Lets pull our horses back a bit and contemplate about the results which left a unwoundable scar for all the aounist.This not the time for weeping and regretting, this should be the period of analyzing and reforming.We should strive to re-build a rigid fan base according to a clear and strategic platforms.

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by King Rami

this thread is dedicated to the christians "claiming victory" and celebrating the "failure of aoun (the way they want to see it)" I have to question and excuse my sectarianism...

1st of all, I want to ask a question about Zahle... the happy LF and Kataeb there celebrating victory, did they wonder what would happen if someday a shi'te - sunnite alliance took place in zahle? 20 000 votes + 30 000 votes, what happens to zahle that has 4 christian MPs 1 sunni and 1 shi'te??

2nd question goes for the LF and Kataeb celebrating the failure of Aoun in christian areas... as we all know, LF and Kataeb are pure christian political parties with no muslim partisans, but too bad the christian heart land is located in Mount Lebanon and mainly in Jbeil, Keserwen, Maten, Baabda the districts that Aoun Sweeped them 2 days ago facing everything a man can face. where the hell is their victory?
LF had 6 MPs in 2005, now they have 5 MPs
Kataeb had 4 now they have 4
FPM had 21 now they have 29

where did they see the "failure of AOUN and his FPM" and where did they see the "Victory of LF and Kataeb" and how the hell can they say: the christians have punished aoun??

Aoun lost nothing, aoun won Jezzine and Zgharta and baabda in addition to jbeil keserwen and maten. it's true zahle was ours, but we all know how it went away...

Please LFers/Kataeb/Ahrar/Fersen el 3adra, explain!

rami, don't bother asking those simple ppl anything.

soon very soon, they will develop an urge to jump out of windows for what will happen hehe

they are irrelevant now more than ever regardless of their delusions.

they just got their preaching words now, but they are of no use to nobody no more.

even a 51% win over them is enough to sideline them.

i think they should just cool down first before they talk to us hehe

[ziadmf]

Originally Posted by Dynamis

Look, lets not fool ourselves like we did for the last 4 years...

FPM lost fair and square Beirut 1, Batroun, and Koura...Those are MOSTLY christian areas...Why?

Also, FPM did not even make a showing in Bshareh...Why?

Finally, we should move away and lead the nation into moving away from this sectarian talk...Lets NOT play their game...

We are a secular party, and we represent ALL lebanese. I hope this was a leeson for us.

We have made only 2 mistakes:
We didn't know how to address neither to Sunni street nor to Durzi street
As for the elections we won
from 21 to 28 it is a wining not a lose
khlosna ba2a
badkoun tdalkoun leh2yne el mou3arada khalikoun wa douba fya
FPM won more MPs

[lepremierlibanais]

54.7% of the Lebanese people elected the opposition, as in all systems of the civilized world should get 54.7% of the parliament, 0,547 * 128 = 70,016 deputies, while 45.2% elected Authority (Almwalat) This is equivalent to 0,452 * 128 = 57.85 deputies, but in the Lebanese law of election, what happened is completely contrary to (71 Deputies for Authority and 57 for the opposition).
truly lebanon democracy is unique

[March14er]

Originally Posted by lepremierlibanais

54.7% of the Lebanese people elected the opposition, as in all systems of the civilized world should get 54.7% of the parliament, 0,547 * 128 = 70,016 deputies, while 45.2% elected Authority (Almwalat) This is equivalent to 0,452 * 128 = 57.85 deputies, but in the Lebanese law of election, what happened is completely contrary to (71 Deputies for Authority and 57 for the opposition).
truly lebanon democracy is unique

Did you think well before adobting what you have just mentioned?
Do you know what will happen if we apply the PURE deomocracy system while we have the total population composed of 60% muslims and 40% christians?

Do the math, and face the nightmare!

[roch10452]

Originally Posted by lepremierlibanais

54.7% of the Lebanese people elected the opposition, as in all systems of the civilized world should get 54.7% of the parliament, 0,547 * 128 = 70,016 deputies, while 45.2% elected Authority (Almwalat) This is equivalent to 0,452 * 128 = 57.85 deputies, but in the Lebanese law of election, what happened is completely contrary to (71 Deputies for Authority and 57 for the opposition).
truly lebanon democracy is unique

In civilized countries, they learn what democracy and election laws mean, before calculating any numbers...

In civilized countries, they also learn math...

If the law was the proportional law over all Lebanon, and you got those results; then yes you would get the same parliament representation.

Did we have an election according to proportionality? no
Did people all over lebanon voted to the max just to show themselves by the numbers? no

48% of the lebanese didnt vote... do we keep half the seat in the parliament empty?

[ecce homo]

Originally Posted by roch10452

In civilized countries, they learn what democracy and election laws mean, before calculating any numbers...

In civilized countries, they also learn math...

If the law was the proportional law over all Lebanon, and you got those results; then yes you would get the same parliament representation.

Did we have an election according to proportionality? no
Did people all over lebanon voted to the max just to show themselves by the numbers? no

48% of the lebanese didnt vote... do we keep half the seat in the parliament empty?

How many % of the french did vote in the last elections or in this month EU-elections?

You guys will never accept proportionality (democracy) in Lebanon, you're friend March 14er above said it all...

[March14er]

Originally Posted by ecce homo

How many % of the french did vote in the last elections or in this month EU-elections?

You guys will never accept proportionality (democracy) in Lebanon, you're friend March 14er above said it all...

inno sho? do you want me to accept Baalback-Hermel votes to be added with Keserwan for example?

[SeekNirvana]

Originally Posted by lepremierlibanais

54.7% of the Lebanese people elected the opposition, as in all systems of the civilized world should get 54.7% of the parliament, 0,547 * 128 = 70,016 deputies, while 45.2% elected Authority (Almwalat) This is equivalent to 0,452 * 128 = 57.85 deputies, but in the Lebanese law of election, what happened is completely contrary to (71 Deputies for Authority and 57 for the opposition).
truly lebanon democracy is unique

Where do you come up with these theories? Seriously.
There's an electoral law that divides Cazas based on demographic, geographic and sectarian dimensions. Winning the popular vote does not necessarily mean you win the elections. If an analogy can help, the American electoral college system has a similar characteristic.

This theory is OK when faced with the one that claims the percentage of MPs should dictate the percentage of ministers. That one is from another planet all together.

[ecce homo]

Originally Posted by March14er

inno sho? do you want me to accept Baalback-Hermel votes to be added with Keserwan for example?

Where's the problem? Why didn’t you use Tripoli for example… Or do you make a difference between the different sects? Your march14 coalition is just for the preservation of the corrupt, clergy and old tribal families; it has nothing to do with the patriotic slogans that you throw around you.