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this thread is dedicated to the christians "claiming victory" and celebrating the "failure of aoun (the way they want to see it)" I have to question and excuse my sectarianism...

1st of all, I want to ask a question about Zahle... the happy LF and Kataeb there celebrating victory, did they wonder what would happen if someday a shi'te - sunnite alliance took place in zahle? 20 000 votes + 30 000 votes, what happens to zahle that has 4 christian MPs 1 sunni and 1 shi'te??

2nd question goes for the LF and Kataeb celebrating the failure of Aoun in christian areas... as we all know, LF and Kataeb are pure christian political parties with no muslim partisans, but too bad the christian heart land is located in Mount Lebanon and mainly in Jbeil, Keserwen, Maten, Baabda the districts that Aoun Sweeped them 2 days ago facing everything a man can face. where the hell is their victory?
LF had 6 MPs in 2005, now they have 5 MPs
Kataeb had 4 now they have 4
FPM had 21 now they have 29

where did they see the "failure of AOUN and his FPM" and where did they see the "Victory of LF and Kataeb" and how the hell can they say: the christians have punished aoun??

Aoun lost nothing, aoun won Jezzine and Zgharta and baabda in addition to jbeil keserwen and maten. it's true zahle was ours, but we all know how it went away...

Please LFers/Kataeb/Ahrar/Fersen el 3adra, explain!
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this thread is dedicated to the christians "claiming victory" and celebrating the "failure of aoun (the way they want to see it)" I have to question and excuse my sectarianism...

1st of all, I want to ask a question about Zahle... the happy LF and Kataeb there celebrating victory, did they wonder what would happen if someday a shi'te - sunnite alliance took place in zahle? 20 000 votes + 30 000 votes, what happens to zahle that has 4 christian MPs 1 sunni and 1 shi'te??

2nd question goes for the LF and Kataeb celebrating the failure of Aoun in christian areas... as we all know, LF and Kataeb are pure christian political parties with no muslim partisans, but too bad the christian heart land is located in Mount Lebanon and mainly in Jbeil, Keserwen, Maten, Baabda the districts that Aoun Sweeped them 2 days ago facing everything a man can face. where the hell is their victory?
LF had 6 MPs in 2005, now they have 5 MPs
Kataeb had 4 now they have 4
FPM had 21 now they have 29

where did they see the "failure of AOUN and his FPM" and where did they see the "Victory of LF and Kataeb" and how the hell can they say: the christians have punished aoun??

Aoun lost nothing, aoun won Jezzine and Zgharta and baabda in addition to jbeil keserwen and maten. it's true zahle was ours, but we all know how it went away...

Please LFers/Kataeb/Ahrar/Fersen el 3adra, explain!
Look, lets not fool ourselves like we did for the last 4 years...

FPM lost fair and square Beirut 1, Batroun, and Koura...Those are MOSTLY christian areas...Why?

Also, FPM did not even make a showing in Bshareh...Why?

Finally, we should move away and lead the nation into moving away from this sectarian talk...Lets NOT play their game...

We are a secular party, and we represent ALL lebanese. I hope this was a leeson for us.
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Look, lets not fool ourselves like we did for the last 4 years...

FPM lost fair and square Beirut 1, Batroun, and Koura...Those are MOSTLY christian areas...Why?

Also, FPM did not even make a showing in Bshareh...Why?

Finally, we should move away and lead the nation into moving away from this sectarian talk...Lets NOT play their game...

We are a secular party, and we represent ALL lebanese. I hope this was a leeson for us.
Finally!!! I was longing for such a post throughout the whole day, I was starting to feel quite desperate I must say!
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this thread is dedicated to the christians "claiming victory" and celebrating the "failure of aoun (the way they want to see it)" I have to question and excuse my sectarianism...
I guess a more important question is "What are you going to do with your so called victory"...

Some of us remember your victory on October 13th, 1990, and remember what you "did" with it (i.e., not much, you were discarded after your useful life expired)...

I'm really interested in your objectives for the next 4 years and "high-level" plans to achieve them... And really, specifically the christian portion of M14, not FM, not Joumblatt...
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There's one question no one answered in a convincing manner : why did we accept the 1960 law ? everyone says that it was the only possible thing apart of the 2000 law. I'd like that to be true, but what does Hariri say about the proportionnal law. He should be happy with it, it fits well large organizations like his.
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I guess a more important question is "What are you going to do with your so called victory"...

Some of us remember your victory on October 13th, 1990, and remember what you "did" with it (i.e., not much, you were discarded after your useful life expired)...

I'm really interested in your objectives for the next 4 years and "high-level" plans to achieve them... And really, specifically the christian portion of M14, not FM, not Joumblatt...
You're talking about the 10-12 MPs of Kataeb, LF and Kornet Shehwan ? 10% of the parliamant what do you want them to do ? They're the real losers of the elections (with Sleiman)
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1st of all, I want to ask a question about Zahle... the happy LF and Kataeb there celebrating victory, did they wonder what would happen if someday a shi'te - sunnite alliance took place in zahle? 20 000 votes + 30 000 votes, what happens to zahle that has 4 christian MPs 1 sunni and 1 shi'te??
What's your point here?! If Sunni and Shia get together they will have 50k votes whether Aoun had won or not! LOL.

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2nd question goes for the LF and Kataeb celebrating the failure of Aoun in christian areas... as we all know, LF and Kataeb are pure christian political parties with no muslim partisans, but too bad the christian heart land is located in Mount Lebanon and mainly in Jbeil, Keserwen, Maten, Baabda the districts that Aoun Sweeped them 2 days ago facing everything a man can face. where the hell is their victory?
LF had 6 MPs in 2005, now they have 5 MPs
Kataeb had 4 now they have 4
FPM had 21 now they have 29

where did they see the "failure of AOUN and his FPM" and where did they see the "Victory of LF and Kataeb" and how the hell can they say: the christians have punished aoun??

Aoun lost nothing, aoun won Jezzine and Zgharta and baabda in addition to jbeil keserwen and maten. it's true zahle was ours, but we all know how it went away...

Please LFers/Kataeb/Ahrar/Fersen el 3adra, explain!
Please, spare us your fuzzy math. Results are measured against expectations and not in the absolute. Aoun was expecting 35-40 MPs, your people tawashouna inno they will sweep Achrafieh and maybe Batroun and Koura. You said you might even get 45% in Bcharreh (btw you got 25%). Ba3den even in the places where you won your victories were by much smaller margins.

Let's wait for the official detailed results next Tuesday and then we'll be able to discuss more.
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What's your point here?! If Sunni and Shia get together they will have 50k votes whether Aoun had won or not! LOL.



Please, spare us your fuzzy math. Results are measured against expectations and not in the absolute. Aoun was expecting 35-40 MPs, your people tawashouna inno they will sweep Achrafieh and maybe Batroun and Koura. You said you might even get 45% in Bcharreh (btw you got 25%). Ba3den even in the places where you won your victories were by much smaller margins.

Let's wait for the official detailed results next Tuesday and then we'll be able to discuss more.
What Aoun didnt expect was that your buddy Hariri will fly in 92K people, thats how u closed the margins in certain areas, and won in others.

The mistake Aoun made was setting the bar too high...
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this thread is dedicated to the christians "claiming victory" and celebrating the "failure of aoun (the way they want to see it)" I have to question and excuse my sectarianism...

1st of all, I want to ask a question about Zahle... the happy LF and Kataeb there celebrating victory, did they wonder what would happen if someday a shi'te - sunnite alliance took place in zahle? 20 000 votes + 30 000 votes, what happens to zahle that has 4 christian MPs 1 sunni and 1 shi'te??

2nd question goes for the LF and Kataeb celebrating the failure of Aoun in christian areas... as we all know, LF and Kataeb are pure christian political parties with no muslim partisans, but too bad the christian heart land is located in Mount Lebanon and mainly in Jbeil, Keserwen, Maten, Baabda the districts that Aoun Sweeped them 2 days ago facing everything a man can face. where the hell is their victory?
LF had 6 MPs in 2005, now they have 5 MPs
Kataeb had 4 now they have 4
FPM had 21 now they have 29

where did they see the "failure of AOUN and his FPM" and where did they see the "Victory of LF and Kataeb" and how the hell can they say: the christians have punished aoun??

Aoun lost nothing, aoun won Jezzine and Zgharta and baabda in addition to jbeil keserwen and maten. it's true zahle was ours, but we all know how it went away...

Please LFers/Kataeb/Ahrar/Fersen el 3adra, explain!
please, enough sectarian BS talk ...

my question to the loyalists in LF and Kataeb celebrating is ..

who will speak on their behalf in the parlement ?? Sitrida? Zahra? Chamoun? or tueni ? how can these PMs contribute to the develpment of their areas and Lebanon? would they ever stand up in case some capitalist projets threaten a region? would they ask the govt about garbage? electricity?

PITY THE NATION !!!
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please, enough sectarian BS talk ...

my question to the loyalists in LF and Kataeb celebrating is ..

who will speak on their behalf in the parlement ?? Sitrida? Zahra? Chamoun? or tueni ? how can these PMs contribute to the develpment of their areas and Lebanon? would they ever stand up in case some capitalist projets threaten a region? would they ask the govt about garbage? electricity?

PITY THE NATION !!!
Hariri will speak
He knows how to speak ... no really, I'm not joking... I found his speech last night very calm and well said. Speed courses in arabic :-)
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