Professor Geagea: There was no issues with Syria and there was no Lebanese detainees in Syria before 1993

[taifoon]

Originally Posted by Zero Cult

I object Mr Narrator...!

You completely backslided, there is a missing part in your story, you failed to tell how this fairytale ends, and neglected to provide the general public with a morality that shouldn't be overlooked.

I'm still waiting...

Sorry Z-Cult, for keeping you on hold. The story did not end, yet, but will, soon after elections 2009. As you do know, Mongopedia does not deal with only past events. It has hired professionals who also already, and as we speak, are busy documenting future events.. My sources inside that shady agency are usually extremely discrete when it comes to disclosing the past of future events, or the future of past events.. But tell me who can resist a bag full of $$$ at these hard times? Fortunately, I succeeded to extract the following short Mongopedian excerpt:

After the elections in 2009, it so happened that LF, together with other so called christian sopranos at the Hariri harem boy chorus, was crushed. With two orphan MP mercifully elected, one in Bsharreh and one in Shouf, a party coup led by Abou Zahra, aka Antoine Zahra, managed to kick Samir Geagea from the LF top and out in the cold. Professor Gaga's wife, the beautiful Sterida, managed to persuade her husband to not fight back, retire from politics, and resume his profession in Abstract Medicine. Due to the lack of challenging medical cases in Lebanon, Professor Gaga decided to leave the country to an unknown destination.. And there end the couple's tracks.

Rumors tell however that when civil war erupted in the Maldives, a bald man with a thick grey mustache, escorted by an aging beauty, was observed in a green suite on a beach, giving orders to natives. Shortly after, a village full of syrian tourists was attacked and burned down.

Morality: If you're Syrian and want to feel safe anywhere, don't ever mess again with a country whose medical talents have mustaches, are bald and can turn the Maldives into a burning hell.

[J_Raad1450]

Originally Posted by Bejin

Geagea went to Damascus while Boutros Khawand was kidnapped on 15 september 1992...

Boutros voted for Geagea against Georges Saade in internal kataeb elections...

Hakim did not care about Boutros...

When Samir met with Assad, Chehabi, Khaddam and Kanaan, why did he not talk about Boutros?

"Le fil du mensonge ne tire pas long" - Bachir Gemayel

Bejin,


Matter fact, it was Boutros’s Khwand vote that tipped the balance against geagea in the internal political bureau election. Geagea was under the impression that victory is a secure accomplishment. Geagea had to dump $$$ worth of sweets (first hand knowledge) that he bought from XXXXXX before the results of his defeat were out in the open.
Between 1990 and 1994, the Syrians outsource security operation in the former east Beirut to geagea security apparatus. It was geagea’s security apparatus that beat up and threatened “el-3awnia” at that time. This also explains why geagea security apparatus fell overnight in April of 1994. Geagea security apparatus and the Syrians intelligence were working hand in hand to keep “el3ania” in check. Syrians moukhbarat and geagea’s security apparatus were in bed together,

This youtube clip show the relationship between: geagea-Jamil Sayad-Ghazi Kanaan

YouTube - geagea & syria - min L 3amil

Geagea security apparatus was the eyes and ears of the Syrians in “east beirut area”. It is very logical that geagea gave detail information on Khwand’s movement to whoever kidnapped Khwand as a revenge for Khwand voting against geagea.

[Bejin]

Originally Posted by J_Raad1450

Bejin,


Matter fact, it was Boutros’s Khwand vote that tipped the balance against geagea in the internal political bureau election. Geagea was under the impression that victory is a secure accomplishment. Geagea had to dump $$$ worth of sweets (first hand knowledge) that he bought from XXXXXX before the results of his defeat were out in the open.
Between 1990 and 1994, the Syrians outsource security operation in the former east Beirut to geagea security apparatus. It was geagea’s security apparatus that beat up and threatened “el-3awnia” at that time. This also explains why geagea security apparatus fell overnight in April of 1994. Geagea security apparatus and the Syrians intelligence were working hand in hand to keep “el3ania” in check. Syrians moukhbarat and geagea’s security apparatus were in bed together,

This youtube clip show the relationship between: geagea-Jamil Sayad-Ghazi Kanaan

YouTube - geagea & syria - min L 3amil

Geagea security apparatus was the eyes and ears of the Syrians in “east beirut area”. It is very logical that geagea gave detail information on Khwand’s movement to whoever kidnapped Khwand as a revenge for Khwand voting against geagea.

my friend, Boutros Khawand voted for Samir Geagea! Your information is wrong.

[J_Raad1450]

Originally Posted by Bejin

my friend, Boutros Khawand voted for Samir Geagea! Your information is wrong.

I could be wrong about who voted to whom. If my memory did not fail me, geagea was supposed to win by a huge margin but geagea lost by one or two votes. Was Khwand’s vote in geagea’s pocket before the election? Not sure. Maybe you can tell us who turned against geagea!?

Geagea’s was under the impression that the election was just a show and his victory was secure.

Geagea was the security eyes and ears of the Syrians when Khwand was kidnapped. Was geagea consulted? Did geagea knew about the kidnapping? Was geagea involved?
All indications lead to geagea's involvement

[Bejin]

Originally Posted by J_Raad1450

I could be wrong about who voted to whom. If my memory did not fail me, geagea was supposed to win by a huge margin but geagea lost by one or two votes. Was Khwand’s vote in geagea’s pocket before the election? Not sure. Maybe you can tell us who turned against geagea!?

Geagea’s was under the impression that the election was just a show and his victory was secure.

Geagea was the security eyes and ears of the Syrians when Khwand was kidnapped. Was geagea consulted? Did geagea knew about the kidnapping? Was geagea involved?
All indications lead to geagea's involvement

I don't think Geagea is involved in Boutros kidnapping. I think it is a Syrian coup to topple him since after the kataeb elections, step by step, Geagea was put out of the party (1993) and then put in jail (1994)!

Geagea wanted to unit Kataeb Party and LF Party. That's why he runed in the kataeb internal elections. After having destroy the LF and impose his dictatorship, disarm them under syrian occupation and create the so-called LF Party, he wanted to do the same for the Kataeb...

Fouad Abou Nader supported Georges Saade against Samir Geagea, that's why Saade was reelected and Geagea lost. Fouad was against Georges Saade but with the kataeb electoral system, Fouad had no chance to win... Same for Amine Gemayel especially because he was out of Lebanon... So, they chose to support Saade to block Geagea. Fouad led the opposition against Saade from 1989 to 1992 because Saade was with Taef. But in 1992, Fouad chose to support Saade to block Geagea. After the elections (Fouad was not candidate to be reelected as member of the political bureau), Fouad left the Kataeb Party because he refused the Saade/Pakradouni options to support the Pro-Syrian Lebanese regime, Taef agreement and Syrian occupation and did not want to give them a cover.

[J_Raad1450]

Originally Posted by Bejin

I don't think Geagea is involved in Boutros kidnapping. I think it is a Syrian coup to topple him since after the kataeb elections, step by step, Geagea was put out of the party (1993) and then put in jail (1994)!

Geagea wanted to unit Kataeb Party and LF Party. That's why he runed in the kataeb internal elections. After having destroy the LF and impose his dictatorship, disarm them under syrian occupation and create the so-called LF Party, he wanted to do the same for the Kataeb...

Fouad Abou Nader supported Georges Saade against Samir Geagea, that's why Saade was reelected and Geagea lost. Fouad was against Georges Saade but with the kataeb electoral system, Fouad had no chance to win... Same for Amine Gemayel especially because he was out of Lebanon... So, they chose to support Saade to block Geagea. Fouad led the opposition against Saade from 1989 to 1992 because Saade was with Taef. But in 1992, Fouad chose to support Saade to block Geagea. After the elections (Fouad was not candidate to be reelected as member of the political bureau), Fouad left the Kataeb Party because he refused the Saade/Pakradouni options to support the Pro-Syrian Lebanese regime, Taef agreement and Syrian occupation and did not want to give them a cover.

Not sure about your red statement:

• geagea coordinated security activities with the Syrians directly when Khwand was kidnapped
• geagea assassinated many Kataebs leaders and caders in east Beirut, notably Zayek
• geagea attempted to assassinate Fouad Abou Nader himself

...how could you be sure?!

[Bejin]

Originally Posted by J_Raad1450

Not sure about your red statement, given the fact that geagea coordinated security activities with the Syrians directly when Khwand was kidnapped...how could you be sure?!

After the end of Amine's term as president, Boutros Khawand turned with Geagea. So, I don't know why Geagea would have helped to kidnap him.

[J_Raad1450]

Originally Posted by Bejin

After the end of Amine's term as president, Boutros Khawand turned with Geagea. So, I don't know why Geagea would have helped to kidnap him.

I don't why. It could be that geagea wanted to put fear in Kataeb political cadres....It is clear that geagea kept his relationship with the Syrians post Khwand's kidnapping...

It one of two things:

1. Geagea did not care about Khwand
2. Geagea was involved somehow

Pick your choice

[Bejin]

Originally Posted by J_Raad1450

Not sure about your red statement:

• geagea coordinated security activities with the Syrians directly when Khwand was kidnapped
• geagea assassinated many Kataebs leaders and caders in east Beirut, notably Zayek
• geagea attempted to assassinate Fouad Abou Nader himself

...how could you be sure?!

About Elias Zayek, Geagea killed him on 19 january in preparation of the war against the Lebanese Army (31 january). Elias Zayek would have blocked him in Kesrwan.

About Fouad, Geagea tried to kill him three times on 10/11/12 august 1986. On 10 august, Geagea was loosing the control of the LF and of the free regions.

[Bejin]

Originally Posted by J_Raad1450

I don't why. It could be that geagea wanted to put fear in Kataeb political cadres....It is clear that geagea kept his relationship with the Syrians post Khwand's kidnapping...

It one of two things:

1. Geagea did not care about Khwand
2. Geagea was involved somehow

Pick your choice

I think he did not care about Boutros Khawand. I think he does not care about no one of his guys.

Boutros is a great guy and has nothing to do with the person of Samir Geagea.