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1 - Michel Aoun without competition from Seliman = Michel Aoun win

2 - Michel Aoun + Michel Sleiman alliance = Bigger win and Aoun's block will serve as Michel Sleiman's ally.

3- Michel Aoun against Michel Sleiman = All ex-war criminal and thieves win.

It is Michel Sleiman's hand:

If he goes for option one, he is being truly neutral.

If he goes for option 2, he will be the ideal president that the Christian need right now.

If he goes for option 3, he is either really stupid, no different than Geagea or this has always been his mission from day 1 and is hired for that role. THen one must wonder where is Syria from all that is happening to try and understand the bigger picture, since in that case Sleiman is simply someone's puppet or common toy.

For now, let us not get panicky, hateful, and presumptuous. Aoun needs to make his silent moves, develop an understanding of whether something is going on and simply explain to the Christians the damage that a Sleiman participation against him would lead too: the loss for both of them and the rule of the evil ones. Also, Aoun has the responsibility to net alliances including ones with Sleiman and other Christian leaderships to solidify his potential win. All these trips to Iran and Syria better lead to something. As Christians we are understanding but want results.
Michel Sleiman has no effective influence on any of the cazas except Jbeil Caza, simply because he's from Amchite.
If GMA allowed him to take several MPs, it will be GMA's fault, but certainely we can win all the cazas without his support except Jbeil(the chances will be 50 to 50)

GMA will surely know how to deal with him, how to deal with the whole elections.
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What I wanted to say is that FPM can counter attack by asking the president to have candidates from all over the country including Akkar, Tripoly, and Beirut 3. Also it is too early to panic.
He doesn't have any public support there.
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One more thing, it sounds like the psychological warfare is intensifying against Tayyar. I encourage you to stay calm and work calmly and intelligently. Being a little evil is not so bad. I mean Geagea massacred whole families while performing his ‘national’ duties.

In either case, our financial support is ready (as much as we could) if needed. There should be monthly donations organized to support in the election. If Iran pays for it, that would be even better. I will personally write a “Thank Iran” thread for saving me my hard earned money so I don’t have to spend it against the limitless Saudi petrodollar.
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I have faith in President Sleiman.

I think both lists (Feb 14 and FPM/HA) will compete against each other all over Lebanon, and each list will have a candidate that will later be ma7soub on the president, without having to form a third list.

for ex., In jbeil, FPM will win, and prob walid khoury will be ma7soub 3al ra2iss.
In KEserwen, FPM will win, and prob Frem candidate will be ma7soub 3al ra2iss.

Ya3ne the president wont engage in a battle, yet the lists ON BOTH SIDES will have candidates of his... shi heik...
I like your thinking. We should work for an alliance with the President and not against him unless he forces us into a battle. After all, when Lahoud was the president we supported him in order not to undermine the presidency. Now with Sleiman in, there should no effort spared to create an alliance between the strongest Christian representatives and the number one Christian position in the government (eve though, with the current set up, I think the head of the largest Christian parliament would really hold the most powerful Christian position).

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One more thing, it sounds like the psychological warfare is intensifying against Tayyar. I encourage you to stay calm and work calmly and intelligently. Being a little evil is not so bad. I mean Geagea massacred whole families while performing his ‘national’ duties.

In either case, our financial support is ready (as much as we could) if needed. There should be monthly donations organized to support in the election. If Iran pays for it, that would be even better. I will personally write a “Thank Iran” thread for saving me my hard earned money so I don’t have to spend it against the limitless Saudi petrodollar.
Just a reminder, In 2005 we won with limited financial support.
As I remember FPMers and pro-FPMers were paying from their own pockets.

Next elections will surely be different, with totaly huge budgets, but we didn't lose faith with lebanese people, yelli ma byinshara wbyinbe3, at least the majority.
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Mr. Suleiman has the right to present candidates to parliamentary elections just like any other Lebanese..
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Just a reminder, In 2005 we won with limited financial support.
As I remember FPMers and pro-FPMers were paying from their own pockets.

Next elections will surely be different, with totaly huge budgets, but we didn't lose faith with lebanese people, yelli ma byinshara wbyinbe3, at least the majority.
Either way, we are ready for as much support as we could if asked to do so.
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Mr. Suleiman has the right to present candidates to parliamentary elections just like any other Lebanese..
As you 'WISH'.
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relax, he doesn't have the guts.
He just can't afford to lose.
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Mr. Suleiman has the right to present candidates to parliamentary elections just like any other Lebanese..
Is it necessary for your president to be humilated?
After all, he's your president of the republic, and it will give a bad image to the country.
It's better for him to stay as a consensual president.
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