President Michel Sleiman: You have to resign immediately

[sanfour]

Originally Posted by GMA forever

President Sleyman rode long enough on the syrian horse, now it seems he is switching to the Saudi one. Let us see being a double agent where it wil lead him.......

this is becoming ridiculous, cursing anyone who is not sitting in GMA's lap
will not help. and accusing your president of being a Saudi puppet without
any proof just because there may be some candidates who will support
him, will not help either. why then do you blame people for accusing
Aoun of being an Iranian puppet?

[LebReporter]

Originally Posted by orange infection

the problem is that this new block of gms is in the christian areas >>>> it will replace FPM deputees
why there isn't a block for the president in tripoli , "omar karami , ahmad karami and najib mikati" can form a block who can back up the president
oops i forgot , the new block cannot be formed in places where 14 march will win

Basicaly ma bemoon 3ala 7adan our president :) they will give him parlement memebers if they were able and after election they ignore him like our old lahoud minsters and if u will notice same people Al mur family and friends lol

[go_ELIE_go]

Hariri (and Saudi Arabia) knew that Geagea + Gemayel will loose against Aoun in Christian areas.

So their plan was to fight Michel Aoun in Christian areas using Michel Sleimen.

That's why Hariri accepted Sleimen's candidacy (although he primarly had refused a military man).

For a while, Sleimen played the role of the neutral guy, being at equal distance from all parties.

But now that elections are getting nearer and 14th of Feb people are lacking in opinion polls, Sleimen is slowly - but firmly - entering the race against Aoun.

Soon, you will hear of the so-called INDEPENDENT candidates in Ksrouen, Achrafiyeh, Jbeil, Maten, etc... But there won't be such independent candidates in Basta, Tripoli, Akkar.

This was HARIRI's aim by choosing Sleimen: to fight Aoun in christian areas

sah 2il nom guys!!!

[barid]

Originally Posted by orange infection

the problem is that this new block of gms is in the christian areas >>>> it will replace FPM deputees
why there isn't a block for the president in tripoli , "omar karami , ahmad karami and najib mikati" can form a block who can back up the president
oops i forgot , the new block cannot be formed in places where 14 march will win

And why is that?

[Fakhr eddine 1618]

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

General Sleiman was appointed with a majority of cabinet approving his appointment including the FPM. If you dissaprove of his presidency, it isnt he who should resign but rather your elected representatives who voted for him unanimously. If that isnt an under the table deal, i'm not sure what is. If you believe in sectarian federalism, yes GMA should be president, but considering federalism is against fpm idiology, you must accept the current constitution and system of majority rule.

If he is planning to have a kitleh wataniyyeh form all regions and sects, then you may come and tell me "what's wrong with it"?

However, having an objective to come and reduce the power of only one team, this won't be consencus anymore

Rather than bash GMS why dont the Fpm embrace him and support his political ambitions, considering his ideals and direction dont differ much from those of the fpm.

Why doesn't he support my political ambitions if it does not differ. At least, everybody knows who we are and form where we got our strength. As for him, I still didn't know how he convinced US, Syria, Saudi and Egypt to become President that he is their man

[sanfour]

Originally Posted by LebReporter

ignore what he says tommorow when elections come u will see and if he made takatol and went election and lost will he resign?

no he won't resign and that's why he chose his words carefully :

أنه ليس متجهاً نحو معارك انتخابية على قاعدة أنه «رئيس توافقي لكل البلاد» وليس بحاجة «إلى كتلة نيابية»، بل «إلى كتلة وطنية ترجّح المصلحة الوطنية، وتكون إلى جانب الوطن لا إلى جانب رئيس الجمهورية

».

[coralie]

Originally Posted by dodzi

Let's get things straight: we are not saying the President doesn't have the right to participate with allies/his own bloc.

What we are contesting is two things:
- the representation of the President: does he represent the Christians? Does he represent the Lebanese? If he represents the Lebanese, then let him send candidates everywhere in Lebanon, not just between Baabda and Jbeil! If he is supposed to represent the Christians, then let him resign and let's elect GMA as president, since he represents the Christians more than all the others together!
- who is benefiting? Himself or Hariri? The Lebanese people or Hariri?

I mean seriously! What the hell is the point? Obviously blocking GMA from getting a majority in parliament!

sorry Dodzi but i failed to understand the red part of your post .
the President should not be "allied" or have allies in the parlement not under any circumstances or for any reason . he should be the PRESIDENT OF ALL LEBANESE point a la ligne and work with all the parlementary blocks equaly at equal distance from all . i dont see why he should have a block inside the parlement ? what is the purpose ? this will make him part of this or that like it or not this is how things work in lebanese parlement . so obviously he is ready to enter openly the dirty game of sides and le3bit el ma7awer .
for me there is nothing called neutrals in Lebanon as we hear many saying, in time every one will take a side this is a fact let us stop fooling ourselves .

let me assume he "has the right to have a parlementary block" will he dare have candidates in the south ? in bekaa ? in tripoli ? in beirut ? if not this means THE PRESIDENT is building his "block" with a previous plan to divide what noone was able to distroy . this means he is taking a side .

so he is either THE LEBANESE PRESIDENT or HEAD of a parlementary BLOCK .
if he choose the later let him resign from his presidential duties and play the parlementary game .

[elias-aj]

Originally Posted by sanfour

not "giving" the presidency to GMA is not illegal, if you can't get 2/3
of the MPs then you can't have the presidency...it's as simple as that.

Re-read what I wrote, it's not a question of "legal" or "illegal", but rather the notion of democracy that we understand and accept in Lebanon. Confessionalism. Does not mean that I agree or not with that, by the way.

Originally Posted by sanfour

not necessarily a political opponent but tell me what is the
meaning of consensual president in your opinion? there was an
agreement on electing him....OK....but that doesn't mean that he
can't do anything for fear that it may disturb some political figure!!
that said, i do agree with the sentence in bold....work for it instead
of cursing the president.

I'm not cursing him. He's free indeed to do whatever he wants. If he wants to run his own list, then so be it. But this means that he will run against FPM list which makes him a political opponent to FPM.

He was chosen as a consensual president because he was not in the majority nor in the opposition. If he decides to present a list during next elections, then the conditions which existed and justified his "nomination" as a consensual president will not be met any more.

Originally Posted by sanfour

all voters are over 21 years of age, they can vote for whoever
they want.

Indeed. I may add that Lebanese have never been as free as they are today. The future of our country will depend on their votes. Will they decide to move forward or to go back to the last century ?

[sanfour]

Originally Posted by coralie

sorry Dodzi but i failed to understand the red part of your post .
the President should not be "allied" or have allies in the parlement not under any circumstances or for any reason . he should be the PRESIDENT OF ALL LEBANESE point a la ligne and work with all the parlementary blocks equaly at equal distance from all . i dont see why he should have a block inside the parlement ? what is the purpose ? this will make him part of this or that like it or not this is how things work in lebanese parlement . so obviously he is ready to enter openly the dirty game of sides and le3bit el ma7awer .
for me there is nothing called neutrals in Lebanon as we hear many saying, in time every one will take a side this is a fact let us stop fooling ourselves .

let me assume he "has the right to have a parlementary block" will he dare have candidates in the south ? in bekaa ? in tripoli ? in beirut ? if not this means THE PRESIDENT is building his "block" with a previous plan to divide what noone was able to distroy . this means he is taking a side .

so he is either THE LEBANESE PRESIDENT or HEAD of a parlementary BLOCK .
if he choose the later let him resign from his presidential duties and play the parlementary game .

a parliamentary block at equal distance from all.

[Chief]

relax, he doesn't have the guts.