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Hello,
Maybe the title of the thread sounds a bit harsh, but in fact the title is said in an appropriate/kind way comparing to what i feel.
First of all, what i am going to say represents merely my own opinion, i am a maronite "abban 3an jedd" w "bsalleb bel khamsi" as we say.
Likewise, from ever since my early childhood and later adulthood, and i hear of this man, dissecting his acts and trying to find one, one single positive input in his life, but yet i couldn't find unfortunately.
Patriarch Sfeir, i am one of the maronite church followers, and i tell you loud and clear:
1-You supported Samir geagea the head of a militia at time against the lebanese army and the legitime forces in the late 80's, and you watched the brothers killing eachother without doing anything.
2-You endorced and clapped for the "humility" agreement, the so-called Taef that took all the maronite powers and attributes.
3-You said " it was a nightmare that went off" after the syrian forces bombaed baabda and exiled GMA the maronite head of the army on 13 october 1990.
4-You said on 1998 , " emile lahoud is a rescue for the christians in Lebanon" and we saw you after some years attacking him and disrespecing him.
5-You said on april 2003 ' Bachar Assad is a wise man, and he has great approaches towards Lebanon".
6-You renounced your famous say after 2005 elections that " the christians have now a new and a sole leader", only few months later.
7-You attacked GMA and sleiman franjieh that signed the paper of the church directions, and defended geagea and gemayel that said " it is pact of non honour.
8-You made an illegal and an appropriate intervention only one day before 20009 election, by saying that if the opposition wins, Lebanon's face will change.
9-You said last week "in Lebanon the majority should rule alone and the minority should oppose", but you know well dear patriarch that the christians are minority in lebanon now, and at any moments the muslims can form a majority rule alone if we follow your logic, thus you are hurting intentionally or unintentionally the christians presence and participation in this country.
After this long dark history with you my dear patriarch, i say that i am becoming day after day an atheic because of your behavior, you are dividing the church, you are dividing and hurting the christians in lebanon ore than anybody has done from more than 1700 years...
You are the most disgrace that have hit the maronite church from ever since St. Maron.
I tell you more hope someone delivers to you my message:
You got 37% in your hometown "Rayfoun", you got 47% in the "maronites fade" kesserwen, how can you lead a community of 20 million people if the people of your hometown rejected you?
Patraiarch Sfeir, i tell you with love and respect, and to save the left dignity for our community in Lebanon and allover the diaspora : Please Go Home........................
After 23 years, it is time for peace, for both of us!
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Originally Posted by Zouxi Hello,
Maybe the title of the thread sounds a bit harsh, but in fact the title is said in an appropriate/kind way comparing to what i feel.
First of all, what i am going to say represents merely my own opinion, i am a maronite "abban 3an jedd" w "bsalleb bel khamsi" as we say.
Likewise, from ever since my early childhood and later adulthood, and i hear of this man, dissecting his acts and trying to find one, one single positive input in his life, but yet i couldn't find unfortunately.
Patriarch Sfeir, i am one of the maronite church followers, and i tell you loud and clear:
1-You supported Samir geagea the head of a militia at time against the lebanese army and the legitime forces in the late 80's, and you watched the brothers killing eachother without doing anything.
2-You endorced and clapped for the "humility" agreement, the so-called Taef that took all the maronite powers and attributes.
3-You said " it was a nightmare that went off" after the syrian forces bombaed baabda and exiled GMA the maronite head of the army on 13 october 1990.
4-You said on 1998 , " emile lahoud is a rescue for the christians in Lebanon" and we saw you after some years attacking him and disrespecing him.
5-You said on april 2003 ' Bachar Assad is a wise man, and he has great approaches towards Lebanon".
6-You renounced your famous say after 2005 elections that " the christians have now a new and a sole leader", only few months later.
7-You attacked GMA and sleiman franjieh that signed the paper of the church directions, and defended geagea and gemayel that said " it is pact of non honour.
8-You made an illegal and an appropriate intervention only one day before 20009 election, by saying that if the opposition wins, Lebanon's face will change.
9-You said last week "in Lebanon the majority should rule alone and the minority should oppose", but you know well dear patriarch that the christians are minority in lebanon now, and at any moments the muslims can form a majority rule alone if we follow your logic, thus you are hurting intentionally or unintentionally the christians presence and participation in this country.
After this long dark history with you my dear patriarch, i say that i am becoming day after day an atheic because of your behavior, you are dividing the church, you are dividing and hurting the christians in lebanon ore than anybody has done from more than 1700 years...
You are the most disgrace that have hit the maronite church from ever since St. Maron.
I tell you more hope someone delivers to you my message:
You got 37% in your hometown "Rayfoun", you got 47% in the "maronites fade" kesserwen, how can you lead a community of 20 million people if the people of your hometown rejected you?
Patraiarch Sfeir, i tell you with love and respect, and to save the left dignity for our community in Lebanon and allover the diaspora : Please Go Home........................
After 23 years, it is time for peace, for both of us!
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Originally Posted by Zouxi Hello,
Maybe the title of the thread sounds a bit harsh, but in fact the title is said in an appropriate/kind way comparing to what i feel.
First of all, what i am going to say represents merely my own opinion, i am a maronite "abban 3an jedd" w "bsalleb bel khamsi" as we say.
Likewise, from ever since my early childhood and later adulthood, and i hear of this man, dissecting his acts and trying to find one, one single positive input in his life, but yet i couldn't find unfortunately.
Patriarch Sfeir, i am one of the maronite church followers, and i tell you loud and clear:
1-You supported Samir geagea the head of a militia at time against the lebanese army and the legitime forces in the late 80's, and you watched the brothers killing eachother without doing anything.
2-You endorced and clapped for the "humility" agreement, the so-called Taef that took all the maronite powers and attributes.
3-You said " it was a nightmare that went off" after the syrian forces bombaed baabda and exiled GMA the maronite head of the army on 13 october 1990.
4-You said on 1998 , " emile lahoud is a rescue for the christians in Lebanon" and we saw you after some years attacking him and disrespecing him.
5-You said on april 2003 ' Bachar Assad is a wise man, and he has great approaches towards Lebanon".
6-You renounced your famous say after 2005 elections that " the christians have now a new and a sole leader", only few months later.
7-You attacked GMA and sleiman franjieh that signed the paper of the church directions, and defended geagea and gemayel that said " it is pact of non honour.
8-You made an illegal and an appropriate intervention only one day before 20009 election, by saying that if the opposition wins, Lebanon's face will change.
9-You said last week "in Lebanon the majority should rule alone and the minority should oppose", but you know well dear patriarch that the christians are minority in lebanon now, and at any moments the muslims can form a majority rule alone if we follow your logic, thus you are hurting intentionally or unintentionally the christians presence and participation in this country.
After this long dark history with you my dear patriarch, i say that i am becoming day after day an atheic because of your behavior, you are dividing the church, you are dividing and hurting the christians in lebanon ore than anybody has done from more than 1700 years...
You are the most disgrace that have hit the maronite church from ever since St. Maron.
I tell you more hope someone delivers to you my message:
You got 37% in your hometown "Rayfoun", you got 47% in the "maronites fade" kesserwen, how can you lead a community of 20 million people if the people of your hometown rejected you?
Patraiarch Sfeir, i tell you with love and respect, and to save the left dignity for our community in Lebanon and allover the diaspora : Please Go Home........................
After 23 years, it is time for peace, for both of us!
Thank you. | "Il n'y a de pire aveugle que celui qui ne veut pas voir".
Your are attacking a puppet, Batrak Sfeir is doing the Vatican and what does the Vatican represents policy.
During Taef Batrak Sfeir was at the Vatican, Georges Saadeh was phoning him everyday and taking his instructions from the Vatican.
Mgr Khoreish has many problems with Sheikh Bashir and it was under the will of the Vatican.
Batrak Khoreish is the first Batrak elected under the control of the Vatican, followed by Batrak Sfeir. Before these two, the Maronites had complete independence for electing their Batrak.
Attack the real ennemy: The Vatican wrong policy.
Jean Paul 2 in his 'Irshad rassouli' asked the lebanese christian to live with muslims 'Sunni' as dhimmis.
Obama two weeks ago asked the Sunni world to protect the Maronite....always as dhimmis.....or as Pandas.
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Originally Posted by Chaos "Il n'y a de pire aveugle que celui qui ne veut pas voir".
Your are attacking a puppet, Batrak Sfeir is doing the Vatican and what does the Vatican represents policy.
During Taef Batrak Sfeir was at the Vatican, Georges Saadeh was phoning him everyday and taking his instructions from the Vatican.
Mgr Khoreish has many problems with Sheikh Bashir and it was under the will of the Vatican.
Batrak Khoreish is the first Batrak elected under the control of the Vatican, followed by Batrak Sfeir. Before these two, the Maronites had complete independence for electing their Batrak.
Attack the real ennemy: The Vatican wrong policy.
Jean Paul 2 in his 'Irshad rassouli' asked the lebanese christian to live with muslims 'Sunni' as dhimmis.
Obama two weeks ago asked the Sunni world to protect the Maronite....always as dhimmis.....or as Pandas.
Know your real ennemies or you will be slapped again as in the 2009 elections. | so we have a new name LOLLLLLLLLLL.
pandas...walla it rhymes better than jenes 3atell.
yeah you are probably right.
the vatican sold the eastern church to the ottoman, we2fet 3alaynna kamm panda.
still we will keep resisting until resistance is futile, than we will resist some more.
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Sfeir today: البطريرك صفير: نأمل من المسؤولين العمل على معالجة ارتفاع أسعار البنزين
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