Patriarch Sfeir Role in Weakening the Christians

[e.kid]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

I have news for you: Next time Sfeir insults SHN or his religious beliefs or the Shiaa, blame only yourself if you don't urge him to stop it plain and simple, and expect a reply from the other side, that will rightfully become harsher and harsher if he insists on keeping insulting them.

Wa Kad 2ou3zira Man Anzara. (This is the kind of language I believe he understands best)

Please explain what is the exact part you felt insulted by

TY

[Lebanesegirl]

Originally Posted by e.kid

Please explain what is the exact part you felt insulted by

TY

Just attacking wilayit al fakih, and the night of the elections scaring the people from the Chiaa and saying "khatar 3ala kayen lebnen" and " wajeh lebnen l 3arabe" This is not an insult?! for us the Christians we have the Vatican representing us and the Pope is the head of it! do u allow anyone to attack the Vatican? NO do u allow anyone to attack the pope? NO so stop attacking Wilayit al fakih because it's a religion!!! No one attacked the batrak so why the heck he attacked the chiaas in lebanon and scared the people from them? just to hit Michel Aoun is this his main point? bas u can go tell sfeir the Chiaas and the Christians in lebanon will live together now and forever u can take jbeil as an example kamen!!

SHN asked sfeir why he is scared? what is scaring him? if u see this as an insult laken I don't blame u!!

[coralie]

did the batrak even read the 2erchad rassouli ? or that was also a trash paper like all the rest of papers they usualy agree on ?

[Danny Z]

Almost twenty pages 3al khityar el kherfen...
Everything he is doing whether we think is right or wrong has resulted in the biggest christian immigration out of Lebanon since 1990. Maybe he should start reconsidering his tactics because there won't be christians in his "kayen" if he keeps acting as a Geageaist
He is the perfect tool for the Kissinger plan whether he knows it or not.

[e.kid]

Originally Posted by Lebanesegirl

Just attacking wilayit al fakih, and the night of the elections scaring the people from the Chiaa and saying "khatar 3ala kayen lebnen" and " wajeh lebnen l 3arabe" This is not an insult?! for us the Christians we have the Vatican representing us and the Pope is the head of it! do u allow anyone to attack the Vatican? NO do u allow anyone to attack the pope? NO so stop attacking Wilayit al fakih because it's a religion!!! No one attacked the batrak so why the heck he attacked the chiaas in lebanon and scared the people from them? just to hit Michel Aoun is this his main point? bas u can go tell sfeir the Chiaas and the Christians in lebanon will live together now and forever u can take jbeil as an example kamen!!

SHN asked sfeir why he is scared? what is scaring him? if u see this as an insult laken I don't blame u!!

Be more specific please
Did you realy heard him say: Shia khatart 3ala kayen lebnen ?
Are you sure ? maybe i missed that, have a link ?

As to "Welayet el faqeeh", my understanding it is not only a religious thing, it is a also a political system, so everybody should have the right do disagree with it /attack it
And everybody did, before the election
there wasn't a single day whithout some candidate attacking wileyet al fakeeh
no one made a big deal out of it
So why attack sfeir now and insinuate about israel ?

seems many christians fpmers are blinded by the loss, to blame everybody and accept everything

what a shame

BTW: Do you accept that some of our MPs take orders from the non-lebaneese "Fakeeh" ?
After all, it was he who gave them permission to run
they admit it openely

I also will not accepta any MP taking orders from the non-lebaneese Pope

Also, it was the iranians who said the opposition win will change the lebaneese system, No
And the iranians said they want to defet america in lebanon,
Do you agree with the above ?
Now, regarding the title of this thread, i think sfeir made a very big mistake, ... back in the early 90, when he accepted Taef in its current form

[>Watani<]

Originally Posted by e.kid

Be more specific please
Did you realy heard him say: Shia khatart 3ala kayen lebnen ?
Are you sure ? maybe i missed that, have a link ?

As to "Welayet el faqeeh", my understanding it is not only a religious thing, it is a also a political system, so everybody should have the right do disagree with it /attack it
And everybody did, before the election
there wasn't a single day whithout some candidate attacking wileyet al fakeeh
no one made a big deal out of it
So why attack sfeir now and insinuate about israel ?

seems many christians fpmers are blinded by the loss, to blame everybody and accept everything

what a shame

BTW: Do you accept that some of our MPs take orders from the non-lebaneese "Fakeeh" ?
After all, it was he who gave them permission to run
they admit it openely

I also will not accepta any MP taking orders from the non-lebaneese Pope

Also, it was the iranians who said the opposition win will change the lebaneese system, No
And the iranians said they want to defet america in lebanon,
Do you agree with the above ?
Now, regarding the title of this thread, i think sfeir made a very big mistake, ... back in the early 90, when he accepted Taef in its current form

شو يعني ولاية الفقيه؟

[cleo]

Originally Posted by needfortruth

J.

This specimen is on a mission. He will not retire even though he surpassed the retirement age. Why? Again, he has a mission and will not leave until he gets it done. I spoke with the people running his office one time in Chicago. If I am to take a guess, they were on the CIA payroll pushing the Christians to some kind of self destruction. He is under the control of some political 'cult' who has specific mission. Only grim death or a 'French Revolution' with the help of guillotines may make a change.

of course they r on a payroll,didnt u see sa3ed going to bkerki a day after the elections and didnt u see the smile on sfeir's face?
u think he was happy to see sa3d?u think he likes sa3ed?his sort dont like anyone except those from his family tree.
obviously the check was in sa3ed's pocket.

[Lebanesegirl]

Originally Posted by e.kid

Be more specific please
Did you realy heard him say: Shia khatart 3ala kayen lebnen ?
Are you sure ? maybe i missed that, have a link ?

As to "Welayet el faqeeh", my understanding it is not only a religious thing, it is a also a political system, so everybody should have the right do disagree with it /attack it
And everybody did, before the election
there wasn't a single day whithout some candidate attacking wileyet al fakeeh
no one made a big deal out of it
So why attack sfeir now and insinuate about israel ?

seems many christians fpmers are blinded by the loss, to blame everybody and accept everything

what a shame

BTW: Do you accept that some of our MPs take orders from the non-lebaneese "Fakeeh" ?
After all, it was he who gave them permission to run
they admit it openely

I also will not accepta any MP taking orders from the non-lebaneese Pope

Also, it was the iranians who said the opposition win will change the lebaneese system, No
And the iranians said they want to defet america in lebanon,
Do you agree with the above ?
Now, regarding the title of this thread, i think sfeir made a very big mistake, ... back in the early 90, when he accepted Taef in its current form

wait what? when in the night of the elections u go out and say " Fi khatar 3a kayen lebnen" who is the batrak talking about here? General Aoun and his Christians supporters sure not! He meant if u vote for the Chiaa = Hizballah fi khatar 3a kayen lebnen sure he didn't mean General Aoun and his supporters in keserween are the khatar 3a lebnen!! He was scaring the people from hiziballah and wileyit al fakih! walaw hal2ad bada!! and u don't see this as an attack eh?

or u tell me maybe I didn't understand sfeir right! Who was he talking about when he said "Fi khatar 3a kayen lebnen"? he didn't mean Hizballah at all right?

[dyyyy]

complaining about sfeir does'nt help anything
why don't the christians in C&R bloc go discuss it with the Vatican ambassador??
at least no one can attack them about it, and they can pass the message clearly that we, the chiristians, have a big problem with our patriarch

[Abotareq93]

Originally Posted by dyyyy

complaining about sfeir does'nt help anything
why don't the christians in C&R bloc go discuss it with the Vatican ambassador??
at least no one can attack them about it, and they can pass the message clearly that we, the chiristians, have a big problem with our patriarch

Do you think that the Vatican's Ambassador does not know what is going on?
Do you think that the Vatican has the power or the will to change the situation?
I think that the Vatican is much more controlled by the CIA than Bkerkeh.