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I think Patriarch Sfeir is performing an exceptional level of monologue in which he expresses his personality and depicits his miserable life.This man will never divulge the truth of the corruption and the degradation that the loyalists have been carrying out since decades.
If Jesus was alive,he would certainly repudiate this demented so-called patriarch because his overwhelmed with his double-standards against his people ,and simply BAISED
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our Patriarch Sfeir mann youdaye3..
daoud knows how to regulate the medecine soon....
as for selling ones soul, he should know better

he is the NO 1 EXPERT
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l kalém ma 3aley gomrouk...
It's just to have, a week later, a "data" that proves that he can be with WHATEVER side... bel 7a22!!
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Default 16th March 2009

don't worry...
Patriarch Sfeir is ضربه على الحافر وضربه على المسمار

tomorrow he will realize that FPM is buying the population's conscience by putting adds on the roads and asking people to vote....

and he will NOT notice that Hariri is getting people from the other side of the universe and paying them transportation, hotel and pocket money to vote for him... all those boxes containing food and all the money paid will be considered charity by Patriarch Sfeir and has nothing to do with elections....

his opinion can be flexed with a little money....
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Default 16th March 2009

Hearing Patriarch Sfeir makes me remember the song: إنت وين و الحب وين
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I dont believe Patriarch Sfeir said that !!

Maybe FTV 3adit l tayyar.org
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Although I feel that the Patriarch has made many mistakes and is clearly biased. Although, I believe that a lot of the clergy and some of the religious are a bunch of very, very corrupt, sleazy and hypocritical pharisees.

Despite all of this, it makes me very uncomfortable to see such hateful remarks and comments with regards to the Patriarch of the Maronite Church. Such spiteful words and setences all eminating from the FPM.

I am sure that many religious leaders in other sects are not without some corruption. I am sure that not all of them have the full support of the people.
What would happen if a Shia, Sunni, Druze or Orthodox religious leader was insulted? What would happen if he was accused of fathering an illegitimate child (breaking his vow of chastity)?
What if he was called "Batrak Sfeir" (a swear word)?

What if this was Hassan Nasrallah o Qabalan or Qabani or any other?

It seems to me that many of those who are saying the insults are either atheists/agnostics/anti-religion or from other religions/sects; though, the former is more likely than the latter.

You secularists can secularise all you want. In fact secularism is but a word for you, because most of you are simply atheists who want a European system. But this brand of secularism will not work in Lebanon. Go see what it has done to the societies of Europe. You probably go there for a holiday and love the fact that people drive safely and queue. But you don't know how broken up their society is. Why? All the result of their stupid revolutions, from the French one to the Russian one ect. So my dear "secularists", go trotsky somewhere else, go Che in Amsterdam and go Marxit in Paris. The Maronite church is staying put and will God willing get stronger...not because of it's """clergy""" but because of it's faithfull and the prayers of it's Saints and Martyrs.

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Although I feel that the Patriarch has made many mistakes and is clearly biased. Although, I believe that a lot of the clergy and some of the religious are a bunch of very, very corrupt, sleazy and hypocritical pharisees.

Despite all of this, it makes me very uncomfortable to see such hateful remarks and comments with regards to the Patriarch of the Maronite Church. Such spiteful words and setences all eminating from the FPM.

I am sure that many religious leaders in other sects are not without some corruption. I am sure that not all of them have the full support of the people.
What would happen if a Shia, Sunni, Druze or Orthodox religious leader was insulted? What would happen if he was accused of fathering an illegitimate child (breaking his vow of chastity)?
What if he was called "BS" (a swear word)?

What if this was Hassan Nasrallah o Qabalan or Qabani or any other?

It seems to me that many of those who are saying the insults are either atheists/agnostics/anti-religion or from other religions/sects; though, the former is more likely than the latter.

You secularists can secularise all you want. In fact secularism is but a word for you, because most of you are simply atheists who want a European system. But this brand of secularism will not work in Lebanon. Go see what it has done to the societies of Europe. You probably go there for a holiday and love the fact that people drive safely and queue. But you don't know how broken up their society is. Why? All the result of their stupid revolutions, from the French one to the Russian one ect. So my dear "secularists", go trotsky somewhere else, go Che in Amsterdam and go Marxit in Paris. The Maronite church is staying put and will God willing get stronger...not because of it's """clergy""" but because of it's faithfull and the prayers of it's Saints and Martyrs.
Lebanon can still thrive as a religious country but under a secular system. You are mixing things up.

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It seems to me that many of those who are saying the insults are either atheists/agnostics/anti-religion or from other religions/sects; though, the former is more likely than the latter.

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I'm a maronite and I go to mass every week (well, I try, it is likely every other week or once a month).

I have no comment whatsoever on what Sfeir decides to do in his religious role (well, not true, I still don't understand the catholic church crusade against condomns)...

I however, have a very serious issue with a person highjacking his moral authority to speak utter nonsense in MY NAME (as a Maronite), attacking everything I believe in, all that to support, again, in MY NAME as a Maronite, all those who try to destroy my way of life (from LF to Taef to Hariri, etc.) and that since 1989!!!!!

Go read the interview with S. Hussein Fadlallah in the Wall Street Journal today and you understand how a religious leader should speak.

PS, Although I am totally against mixing religion with politics and don't hold in high estime the other religious leaders you cited, at least they stand WITH their communities, not AGAINST them...
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