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17th October 2009
What happened in the last couple of weeks was not something not to stop at. All Orange Room readers noticed some kind of volcano erupting here due to a certain accumulation of unacceptable behaviors.
It wasn't easy either to break the barriers of what was becoming a kind of natural taboo among FPMers.
The serie of threads that was launched through the Orange Room created a good shock, even if some mistakes were committed there. That's no problem as long as it's among good and sincere people and knowing that no bullets are involved at least.
What happened over there was a lesson to all Lebanese political and non-political parties: brilliant people discussing, debating, shouting maybe, then agreeing, or disagreeing... May anyone tell me where this happens in any other party?
They were all watching what's happening on The Orange Room in fear from that spirit that still governs FPM's ranks "ghasben 3an ra2bet el kell". Rebels we were born, rebels we joined ranks and rebels we shall remain.
The breakthrough that this wave of shock made is that it shifted the downward direction of the slippery slope that was controlling FPM's path.
We had reached a point where we could have nothing to produce in matter of ideas or polemics so we had to copy-paste what newspapers are saying and desperately commenting on what's happening to keep our space alive!
No this is not The Orange Room!
The Orange Room was born to be the flame of freedom in Lebanon's dark ages, and so it remained and so it is still! Just imagine if this didn't happen... Where would we have been? Simply just a daily routine of despair just because everybody wants to remain lazy and silent and waiting for some kind of new Jesus or Mohamed or I-don't-know-who to come and save us. No this doesn't happen this way.
In politics we need to expect shocks and believe how positive they are in making us move.
A comment I received about my latest wave of threads and post telling me: "chaghalet el deneh men warak"! Well fine! Who said that "el deneh" is supposed to be sitting? So thanks for the compliments as they make me feel my mission was accomplished.
On another hand, the good thing that those shocks create are the debate and confrontation of ideas that they provoke between good and sincere people at a side and other good and sincere people at another side. Just take a quick look and notice how people who had disappeared for a long time re-believed in this space and in their capacity to induce change and express themselves and address their ideas to their fellow FPMers and to the thousands of daily active readers of this room.
Just notice how two bad extremes were eradicated: "the bad critics (ta22i2et el 7anak w 2arritet el nazariyyet who just repeat the rhetorics they hear on the street and believe it's a kind of mouda to bash FPM) and the bad defenders (cheerleaders who jump from opinion to opinion between hour and hour just because they don't know how to think for themselves and try to understand what official FPM sources are saying to know what to cheer for).
Those two extremes were cleared from our ranks in no time and the brilliant minds are coming back.
When I said since my very first post in that late wave that we are at a point of no return and that this wave will end with a purification of our ranks, I meant it and I knew what I was doing! You have no idea of the amount of calls and facebook messages and even messages here on the forum in which some great elements are coming back and proposing to me ideas they want to work on because they were frustrated all that time by the rising taboos and felt chained in an ocean of absurdity that governed Lebanon from north to south! And believe me, some ideas were really sad and I had to be harsh on them because they were reflecting some kind of disbelief in FPM's capacity to contain their big brains and healthy activities.
What the Orange Room has proved lately, and greatly thanks to X and the team of the Orange Room, is that it will remain Lebanon's everlasting flame of freedom in that world of darkness.
The Orange Room has proved yet again, like it always did, that it is a space of rebels thirsty for change and for the good of Lebanon, a space that thrives to offer a difference on a scene that started to look all like each other as if we were in "Mother Russia"! I hope we can all make good use of this thread to start initiating ideas on how to recreate the good spirit that was once behind the golden ages of The Orange Room and how to re-create the diversity that made of The Orange Room a wide gate for sincere Lebanese Active Citizens into the active ranks of the Free Patriotic Movement. | | | | | The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to Comrade Bassam For This Useful Post: | | | Registered Member
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Good thread comrade bassam,
I really hope all the criticism that was made in the last couple of weeks will reach it's proper destination, and FPM will return to what it once was.
We should re-organize our ranks and become more dynamic. We are lacking it big time. Everything is important for a party. Activism, Ideas, Organization and even good proper events.
And On a side note, and on the "activism" level.FPM and the Orange room should start an ecological awarness campaign. and a real academic one, not a cheesy one like ghassan el rahbani's. (who believes in protecting the environment but drives a Hummer). | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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Originally Posted by Placebo Good thread comrade bassam,
I really hope all the criticism that was made in the last couple of weeks will reach it's proper destination, and FPM will return to what it once was. | The destination is the individual FPM member or supporter or the individual independent reader. And I guess that was accomplished. Quote: |
We should re-organize our ranks and become more dynamic. We are lacking it big time. Everything is important for a party. Activism, Ideas, Organization and even good proper events.
| I agree. However, organization is not our main focus. Our culture is. General Aoun was not joking when he engaged us in a "Self-Liberation" war... Quote: |
And On a side note, and on the "activism" level.FPM and the Orange room should start an ecological awarness campaign. and a real academic one, not a cheesy one like ghassan el rahbani's. (who believes in protecting the environment but drives a Hummer).
| Deal. I encourage you thus to open a thread on The Orange Room, where you would briefly introduce the campaign idea and call Orange Room members to join it and then do a ground feasibility plan and launch it, and if tayyar.org staff agrees, the campaign would be labelled as sponsored by tayyar.org and it would have a good coverage by "Lebanon's #1 news source". | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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CB, it is not that difficult. my opinion on this matter has been very clear for a very long time. in order to boost the OR it has to turn into a truly liberal forum, ie no rules except against profanities. only in a true liberal environment away from the domination of a party line can this forum flourish to reach new levels. so i cordially renew my proposal to X and to whoever is also in charge, remove the rules, and you'll be surprised. DA. | | | | | The Following User Says Thank You to Dark Angel For This Useful Post: | | | Orange Room Supporter
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good luck guys again,
i hope ur dedication pays off with results
it's always interesting to read what many fpm posters here have to say | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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Originally Posted by Dark Angel CB, it is not that difficult. my opinion on this matter has been very clear for a very long time. in order to boost the OR it has to turn into a truly liberal forum, ie no rules except against profanities. only in a true liberal environment away from the domination of a party line can this forum flourish. so i cordially renew my proposal to X and to whoever is also in charge, remove the rules, and you'll be surprised. DA. | i totally understand that
it makes sense
but the moment a forum becomes completely liberal, it no longer becomes an official partisan forum
so, who can make that call and who is willing to make that call and why should he ? | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by Comrade Bassam , I meant it and I knew what I was doing!
| reverse psycology !!!!! walawwww ya CB 3ala min !
i hope you studied well the after "shock" ! .....................................or else your reverse psycology can be a disaster on the mass ....LOL...
the parasites will eventualy disapear they dont live long unless they have a body they can pin themselves to, to give their existence a raison d'etre . and by parasite i am refering to all those who think fiyon yechmato or yetfalsafo .
now lets move to more important things .
on a political level : we elected our representatives true ? so either we trust them or we dont let them do the job we elected them for , of course we have a duty and we should be alert and questioning when we feel something is not going the right way but not let it be our daily bread and all we do . ya3ni mich kel ma da2 el kouz bel jarra men balish men faj w ghamik ! patience is a vertue . read take your time analyse before jumping to conclusions .and it would be much better if we leave the politic for our politicians
in parallel , the young FPM generation dont have to be politicize all the time we have a country to build and we will never be able to do that by playing only "politic" the young generation has a lot of work to do on many other levels : social , educational , ecological , cultural , ....
i read and heard hundreds of ideas and suggestions this is great but dont keep these suggestions abstract . until now all we have is suggestions we need to start acting even if it is on a small scale in small groupes small platforms small projects , FPMers are good in this. l'effet boule de neige . | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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Originally Posted by Dark Angel only in a true liberal environment away from the domination of a party line | When the party meant is "FPM", true liberal environments become the best expression of domination! | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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Originally Posted by coralie it would be much better if we leave the politic for our politicians | I'm a politician :) Quote: |
in parallel , the young FPM generation dont have to be politicize all the time we have a country to build and we will never be able to do that by playing only "politic" the young generation has a lot of work to do on many other levels : social , educational , ecological , cultural , ....
| This is the best definition of politics, or at least the one we need to promote. Quote: |
i read and heard hundreds of ideas and suggestions this is great but dont keep these suggestions abstract . until now all we have is suggestions we need to start acting even if it is on a small scale in small groupes small platforms small projects , FPMers are good in this. l'effet boule de neige .
| Agree... I hope Placebo will take initiative in opening a thread about the awareness campaign he (or she) has in mind in order for us to discuss the idea first and then gather activists to do it on ground (yes we can do that). | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by Comrade Bassam I'm a politician :)
. | walla ????  sorry i did not vote for you !!!!!!  | | | |  | | |
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