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لا أعرف لماذا تنسون دائماً أننا في لبنان، وأن السياسيّ المنتخب من هذا الشعب يدرس ما يريده شعبه منه لكي ينتخبه، كالتاجر الذي يشتري البضائع ويريد تصريفها، فهو يسأل من سيشتريها
على ذوقكم أولا ولكن هذا الموجود! لا أظنّ أن الدكتور خوري ربح بفارق كبير على المرشح الآخر، فلو افترضنا أنه تمّ ترشيح شخص عاديّ مثل الحشاش وله ميول عونيّة لكان تقارب مع المرشحّ الآخر. أنا لا أنكر أنه غير معروف، ولكن لمن يعرفه وللأشخاص الذين يحبون العماد عون قدرّوا كثيراً ترشيح طبيباً مقابل محامي. هناك أيضاً هذا التفكير في المتن والذي لا أحد يحسب له حساب. فالبراستيج لدى اللبنانيين يتفارق بين منطقة وأخرى
Great thinking,
then since we are in Lebanon and people like you want us to keep this state of affairs, how about we ask Gebran Bassil to take some money from his ministry and start rebuilding Batroun; make it the capital of the north.

Walaw, we are in Lebanon and this is what the people want!!!

Look back at FPM's history, its slogans and most importantly its program.

You know what, look back at Michel Aoun's speech a couple of days ago when he was telling people not to get blackmailed by the money that will be spent on the elections.

Now Dr Khoury may not have taken hundred dollar bills and threw them to the people, but he surely used his money to get people closer to him......

I don't think that people like him belong to the FPM after all and I don't think that people who will act the same way should be close to the FPM
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a couple of days ago, i saw trucks 3am bi zafto the road in beit el kiko. Guess what, the trucks had fpm flags on....

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ومنذ شهر تقريباً، رأيت كاميون يزفت طريق الفنار وعليها علم حزب الله ويافطة شكراً لإيران، فبات المسيحيون هناك يشكرونهم لأنه ومنذ أكثر من 10 سنوات لم يصل الزفت إلى منطقة الفنار لأن أهلها لا ينتخبون في المتن! وكأن هذه المنطقة ليست في لبنان! فأين هي الدولة؟
يعني مشكورين التيار الوطني الحرّ بعد 4 سنوات استطاعوا أن يزفتوا في بيت الكوكو وفي كسروان حتى! فهذه كانت من المشاريع الإنمائية في برنامج الإصلاح والتغيير. وعندما كان يسأل العماد عون عنها، كان يقول لنا إن البلدية ووزارة الأشغال العامة توقف لنا تلك الطلبات. طبعاً لأن الحكومة كانت لبيت السنيورة. أمّا الآن فهي للجميع. فبدأوا بتوزيع الزفت على المحرومين
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Great thinking,
then since we are in Lebanon and people like you want us to keep this state of affairs, how about we ask Gebran Bassil to take some money from his ministry and start rebuilding Batroun; make it the capital of the north.

Walaw, we are in Lebanon and this is what the people want!!!

Look back at FPM's history, its slogans and most importantly its program.

You know what, look back at Michel Aoun's speech a couple of days ago when he was telling people not to get blackmailed by the money that will be spent on the elections.

Now Dr Khoury may not have taken hundred dollar bills and threw them to the people, but he surely used his money to get people closer to him......

I don't think that people like him belong to the FPM after all and I don't think that people who will act the same way should be close to the FPM
IT'S NOT MY THOUGHTS. I'm telling you what's happening in Lebanon and how the lebanese people think and what do they need!
Do you want to keep on dreaming or come to the reality and see how can you manage this issue?
yalla let us build the state! But is there any party want to build it other than GMA? I doubt and I'm sorry for that!
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yalla let us build the state! But is there any party want to build it othen than GMA? I doubt and I'm sorry for that!
I think that Salafists are the only ones really interested in building a state. And I'm sorry for that too. Some people just lack trust in them because of propaganda, but eventually they'll realize how wrong they have been.
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IT'S NOT MY THOUGHTS. I'm telling you what's happening in Lebanon and how the lebanese people think and what do they need!
Do you want to keep on dreaming or come to the reality and see how can you manage this issue?
yalla let us build the state! But is there any party want to build it othen than GMA? I doubt and I'm sorry for that!
The fact that you're not willing to do something about it means that you're ok with it.

At least people here are trying to start somewhere, they are trying to make a change by stopping this madness, while you are defending these kinds of acts.

How do you suppose to want to change the country and the system when you are embracing the current state of affairs
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The problem is not helping the people, any human being who has the financial abilities to help the poor, should do it.

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The problem is when some people help the poor for political gains, or some people help the poor and then come and make a media stunt about it showing the people that he is helping the poor (for political gain also)
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The fact that you're not willing to do something about it means that you're ok with it.

At least people here are trying to start somewhere, they are trying to make a change by stopping this madness, while you are defending these kinds of acts.

How do you suppose to want to change the country and the system when you are embracing the current state of affairs
haha, and you know what are my will?
sorry again, but the forum isn't the right place to start! everyone knows where we can start this change!
again I'm not defending, but I'm telling you what's happening usually and this isn't the first time that Dr.Khoury do a free day for his patients. I'm only against the advertising until we have a state with Daman Chaykhoukha maybe
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ok so you do not want social services (zeft wa ma chabah) .
you dont want medical free services wa ma chabah w men jaybetna kamena .
you dislike visites to neighbouring countries .
you dont like when your MP talk ( hayda ma biyeswa w hayda ma biya3rif yehki w hayda ma ba3rif chou ..)
we work with less then nothing and if we ask for help bet 2oum 2yemetkon .
iza 3melna internal election mich 3ajebkon w iza ma 3melna yiii chou hayda ma bi sir heik .
iza ma admana khadamet yi what are the MPs doing and if bi zafto kam tari2 mab3oujeh yiiiii chou hayda electoral thingy tfeh .

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Canadian, you're really hilarious. you thanked X for his post

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The problem is not helping the people, any human being who has the financial abilities to help the poor, should do it.

But

The problem is when some people help the poor for political gains, or some people help the poor and then come and make a media stunt about it showing the people that he is helping the poor (for political gain also)
and to review what you said before

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The problem is not with the advertisement, it's with the action per se
it's really weird no?
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ok so you do not want social services (zeft wa ma chabah) .
Not from MPs and not for political gains.
No we don't want this help in this way, since it's this system that we fought for the past 18 years and that we would like to change
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you dont want medical free services wa ma chabah w men jaybetna kamena .
Ask your MPs to present a bill in the parliament for free medical services, do not create a mini-state in ur own constituency
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you dislike visites to neighbouring countries .
Not any neighboring country, just the ones holding lebanese prisoners in their dungeons
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you dont like when your MP talk ( hayda ma biyeswa w hayda ma biya3rif yehki w hayda ma ba3rif chou ..)
Of course we do, it's a delight to hear Moukheiber, Khazen, Salhab, Khalil and other very good MPs.

It's not wrong to criticize the ones we believe cast a poor picture on FPM like Nabil Nicolas and stuff
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we work with less then nothing and if we ask for help bet 2oum 2yemetkon .
We've worked for nothing for a long time now and never have we supported to be helped by mini-states.

That's why Michel el Murr is so popular, because people there did not resist to the temptation of taking blood money from him at the expense of the state and the rest of the lebanese people.

That's why Lebanon is still lagging 100 hundred years behind when it comes to democracy and modern state.
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iza 3melna internal election mich 3ajebkon w iza ma 3melna yiii chou hayda ma bi sir heik .
Any internal election is great
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iza ma admana khadamet yi what are the MPs doing and if bi zafto kam tari2
It's not the MPs job to yi addim khadamet or yi zaffit el tari2.

What is the difference between them and Hariri or LF clinics or Hezbollah pension plans ?
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